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[ale] Where to Start?
Preference for apt-get/dpkg by those unfamiliar with yum/rpm is nothing
other than an opinion. As for me I think apt-get/dpkg suck wind but
understand that this is also just an opinion.
The simple fact is whether you rail against it or not RedHat Enteprise
Linux is the main "commercial distribution" and the one that most
commercial organizations use if they want vendor support and it uses
The comment made was "if you want to go pro" meaning if you intend to
get a job on it. Since CentOS is a binary compile from the RHEL source
it's a good way to get used to it for the job market. Fedora is great
if you like bleeding edge stuff and is a project supported by RedHat.
I'd say most pros probably use RHEL at work but have one or two other
distros they work on (and may even prefer). However, the OP's
question was "how to get started" so the questions becomes "where does
he want to go?" If he intends to do this for a living he shouldn't be
sidetracked by the fact that some commercial organizations do use
non-commercial distros. If he only intends to use this personal use
then there is no reason not to suggest your favorite distro to him but
please don't try to elevate opinion to the level of fact.
From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] On Behalf Of Jim
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 7:40 AM
To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts - Yes! We run Linux!
Subject: Re: [ale] Where to Start?
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 12:52 AM, m-aaron-r <aaron at pd.org> wrote:
On 2010/06/17, at 19:38 , Jim Kinney wrote:
> If you want to go pro then fedora for desktops and
> RedHat/CentOS for servers.
Not to be contrary, since I believe the majority of enterprise
operations are still Redhat centric, but I was surprised
by the number of admin pros at tonight's meeting noting a
strong preference for Ubuntu Server.
Heh, heh. That's because the RHEL pro's were at work leaving the
Unbunto pro-wanna-be's at the meeting :-)
The Ubuntu Server is shaping up nicely as a package set. From a pro
stand point handling a crapton of systems, the long life products are
the ones that count, RHEL and the LTS versions of Ubuntu. Rapid fire
system upgrades are a pile of work when every application running has to
be recertified and all trainings docs rewritten to reflect the changes.
What I've seen in the RHEL world probably holds true in the Ubuntu LTS
world; baseline OS for new deployments changes about every 2 years or
so. the longer term support means the old crap stays afloat longer when
third party apps are deemed "mission critical" and the app provider has
not delivered the ext version. Additionally, many, many third party apps
are super expensive so doing an upgrade every two years is like taking
three times the hardware and support and OS and power and cooling and
tossing it all out the window all just to run on newer baseline OS. The
bean counters hate that.
mostly come out of the strengths of apt-get / dpkg
over yum / rpm and the reliability of update installations
that apt-get provides.
> All distros will let you do anything you want.
> Things are really easy to install now. Once you have
> devel tools and libs installed, pound code! Main thing
> is to have ready lonks to the distro community by web
> or mailing list AND a local Linux group.
Agreement with the rest for sure.
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