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latest false flag attack?

On Mon, 17 Sep 2018 23:58:51 -0700
Mirimir <mirimir at riseup.net> wrote:

> On 09/17/2018 11:21 PM, juan wrote:
> <SNIP>
> > 	Have you ever tried to melt aluminium? (700C) Copper? (1070C)
> I have :) At times, I've disposed of HDDs by burning them. In a 25 liter
> steel drum, with holes punched around the bottom, for draft. I used dry
> oak, started with kerosene, and juiced occasionally with paraffin.
> Everything but the steel parts burned. Including all the aluminum and
> copper. And that was without forced draft.

	so you had to construct a furnace of sorts. It didn't have forced draft but it used convection. Did you use enough wood to fill the drum? The fuel / HD ratio was something like 20:1? More?  Also, there's little copper in a HD except the pcb traces as far as I know? 

	Anyway I take your comment as yet another example of the fact that heating metals is not easy. 

> I've also burned steel. But that took a methane-oxygen flame. 

	I've seen those used as a cheaper replacement for oxyacetylene torchs and they cut steel as if it were butter. BUT even using one of those, if you want to melt a sizable amount of material you need insulation i.e. a furnace.

> And it was
> very dramatic. Even more so than magnesium. With lots of pops, and
> splattering molten steel.
> <SNIP>