Re: Temperaprint & Gum

From: Judy Seigel ^lt;[email protected]>
Date: 01/29/04-11:52:32 PM Z
Message-id: <Pine.NEB.4.58.0401300045450.23597@panix3.panix.com>

On Thu, 29 Jan 2004, Loris Medici wrote:
> 1) Gum is very expensive if you buy the "premium" versions and I
> couldn't find any "cheap" litographer grade gum in my area, also I think
> mixing my own gum from raw gum tears will not be as easy / convenient as
> using egg yolks.

Do you have any commercial printers -- that is companies that print offset
-- in your area? Their lithographer's gum (in this country) costs from
$16 to $19 dollars a gallon, which is 4 liters. I found that every one of
4 or 5 different makers that I've used excellent -- much better than the
"premium" gum.

But even the "premium" isn't that expensive over here-- unless you mean
the winsor newton gum arabic which costs about $8 for a couple of ounces.
It actually works OK, and goes further than you might expect -- but still
so expensive as to cause printer's cramp.

On the other hand, I want to print on PAPER, not plastic. But what's YUPO?

Judy

> 2) I also couldn't find suitable artist quality tube water color
> pigments in my area, only pans - absolutely no tubes - and they're very
> expensive (winsor-newton, daler-rowney). Messing with pans
> (dissolving/crushing) is boring. In the other hand, artist quality
> lightfast acrylic paint can be found very easily (brands like
> winsor-newton, daler-rowney, daniel smith).
>
> 3) I can find Yupo paper in my area (the idea of using a synthetic paper
> which doesn't need sizing and is dimensionally stable is nice) I didn't
> try it myself but as almost every article I read on gum mention that
> some tooth is needed to keep the gum emulsion on paper then I made a
> (perhaps wrong) conclusion that this paper cannot be used with gum!??!?
> (is it so?)
>
> So I ask to people that printed using either or both processes:
> Can you please make comments on above statements? Correct me if I made
> mistakes, contribute with your thoughts/impressions please. What is the
> disadvantages/advantages of each process? Can you compare these
> processes? Where I can find a book or article on how I can make
> phototempera prints?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Loris.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ian Greant [mailto:ian@51north.com]
> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 8:38 AM
> To: alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca
> Subject: Re: Temperaprint
>
>
> <snipped>
>
> It's an interesting looking print, Not quite what I'd exhibit but it
> certainly shows promise.
>
> Cheers,
> Ian
>
Received on Thu Jan 29 23:52:42 2004

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