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[ale] OT: Forget Comcast, I wanna move to Germany!



You forgot NSA.  

I loved it when it was revealed that phone companies were turning over
call records to the NSA without warrant so the NSA could "mine" the
information.   Most telecoms denied they were doing it.  AT&T instead
immediately changed their "privacy" policy to say THEY own YOUR data and
can do what they want with it.   What gets me is that everyone didn't
immediately drop their AT&T service.   Now that AT&T owns all of
Cingular and BellSouth we should all dump those services until they
realize who the customer is.

Where does HP play into it?  (More than Dell, IBM or others that is?)

-----Original Message-----
From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] On Behalf Of
To: ale at ale.org
James P. Kinney III
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 1:38 PM
To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
Subject: Re: [ale] OT: Forget Comcast, I wanna move to Germany!

For the US, that would be the DoD/ATT/HP/etc. 

On Thu, 2007-04-05 at 13:07 -0400, Brian Stanaland wrote:
> No matter how high my taxes are I don't want the government providing
> for, paying for or even subsidizing my access to information and
> communications.  Whoever pays the bill controls the access and by
> extension what information is transmitted.
> 
> Brian
> 
> On 4/4/07, James P. Kinney III <jkinney at localnetsolutions.com> wrote:
>         On Wed, 2007-04-04 at 16:27 -0400, Jay Finch wrote:
>         > Well, as I understand the way that German Telekom works, the
>         > government also subsidizes most of their services and folks
>         living in
>         > Germany pay a higher tax rate to support it (amongst other
>         Government 
>         > programs).
>         >
>         > So (if I'm understanding things correctly) how would you
>         like to pay a
>         > 50% (or higher) tax rate in order to have those advanced
>         services?
>         > I'll take my 25% bracket (for now, unless we get a
>         consumption-based 
>         > tax like FairTax) and be happy for now. :)
>         >
>         > Cheers!
>         > Jay
>         
>         Run the taxes through the roof if I can get a better school
>         system and
>         better public sector services. There are still loads of rich
>         folks 
>         making scads of $$ (sorry - don't have the Euro symbol in
>         front of me)
>         so the higher tax rate can't possibly be killing off business
>         like the
>         whining shift the tax burden to the non-voting people - our
>         kids and 
>         grand kids - keep claiming. Maybe we should up the death tax
>         and kill
>         'em off early to pay off the bills they have run up.
>         
>         Didn't we get in a little war around 1776 over "No taxation
>         without
>         representation"?
>         
>         Gad! What a rant even from me. Maybe I shouldn't eat pepperoni
>         pizza
>         before I hit ALE mail...
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