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NSA Attacks on VPN, SSL, TLS, SSH, Tor



The US government benefits greatly from dissidents in North Korea, 
China, Russia, Japan, and Germany being able to effectively use Tor
to exfiltrate business intelligence and leak it to the people that
run this country, the campaign contributors.

The ability to use Tor to anonymously gather information about what
multinational companies are planning to do is very valuable to said
multinational companies. What's amusing about this is it's good for
the CEOs, security officers, security agencies, and sentient high
frequency trading AI's, but not very good for most investors.

The US government is not a single entity, it is full of people who
have biases, turf battles, and mixed loyalties. So there are parts
that fund tor, for ideological reasons, and parts that hate it, and
they are playing very long-term battles with each other, in addition
to the perceived 'battle' between the noble cypherpunks and the
despotic good for nothing government

On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 02:41:57PM +0100, Cari Machet wrote:
> ask yourself what does the US government benefit from the mere existence of
> tor let alone the use?
> 
> why would they fund tor?
> 
> is it really not obvious?
> 
> bait and switch tactics - 'they' are 'us' - infiltration - knowledge....
> fucking us
> 
> to see where we are blah blah blah tech wise and head wise to be able to
> take out kim dot coms etc .... where are all the bad anti-capitalist
> children playing? .... how would they know?
> 
> i would argue they dont care if people know about snowden shit cause what
> they have in line for the future is beyond all of what snowden knew what he
> used - they dont think in terms of this generation like the people are
> taught to do - they think incredibly long term
> 
> the system is not stupid in this way but in other ways yes
> 
> it is performative - political theater .... keep those brats busy... its
> like a false flag
> 
> also the media does not have to abide by these shit rules but intercourse
> online magazine chooses to align while everyone bows down to laura poitras
> like she is fucking god and they do all kinds of sucking at gg - its
> disgusting.... isnt it john?
> 
> On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Mirimir <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> > On 12/30/2014 03:47 AM, Jason Richards wrote:
> > > On Tue, 30 Dec 2014 01:32:44 -0500 grarpamp <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >> On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:46 PM, Juan <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >>>         Anyway, I'm getting the impression that all the Snowden
> > >>>         stuff that gets 'leaked'  to the public has been somehow
> > >>>         approved by the US govt?
> > >>
> > >> It's well known that media seeks confirmation and approval from govts
> > >> before publishing anything.
> > >
> > > OK, I'll bite: why? What benefit does the US govt get from the
> > > information leaked by Snowden?
> > >
> > > J
> >
> > Benefit? Who knows? But media asks for comment, and government gets the
> > chance to argue against release, and for redaction.
> >
> 
> 
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