RE: Best CI for process

From: Eric Neilsen ^lt;[email protected]>
Date: 10/04/05-07:47:13 AM Z
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I know, you're a kidder. I use the mix for two purposes, contrast and
color. I start at 50/50 most of the time and start with Na based palladium.
I hold in reserve the ammonium based palladium to maintain a cooler toned
print and get the long scale of palladium. Some people are blessed with one
work flow, their own, and other have one work flow that needs to accommodate
a broader range of starting points. I can't always craft the negative to a
place my own work would come from so between mask and different mixes I hope
to make a print the buyer will like. The hardest thing to do is make
detail happen where there is little or no separation in the SHADOWS. If need
be, pencils are my magic marker. Talk about local control. : )


After looking at Sandy's numbers, his scale is like my scale in many ways.
In the data provided, which is not meant as the definitive proof. Sandy's
scale is every bit as full as mine. That is why I look at numbers. I
remember learning the CI, ES, Flare etc, back in college and said, that is
all well and good, but you still need to make the print by feel.





Eric Neilsen Photography

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Suite 9

Dallas, TX 75226



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Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 2:15 AM
Subject: Re: Best CI for process


Hi Eric,

I was only kidding about the ES Envy.....

But I still am interested in what brings you to use the long exposure
scale...or are you saying that's not what you usually use? In either case,
I'm just curious as to why people pick certain contrast mixes. No hidden
agenda with the question. People develop workflows and choices of things
like contrast mixes, papers, etc for good reasons and usually whatever they
pick works pretty well for them. As you say, since you print for other
people you have to be sure of the outcome.

Best Wishes,
Mark Nelson
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In a message dated 10/3/05 8:29:28 PM, writes:

Mark it is not exposure scale envy, but image recovery. I print not only for
myself but make prints for other people. Believe it or not, not everyone
uses the Zone system, pre visualization or any other method to predict an
out come and yet they still want to make a platinum print from the shoot. In
order to get everything, I sometimes find my self stretching backwards and
If I can do it, then when I need to do it it is not such a reach.
I normally use a mix of 50/50 which produces a steeper curve than the one
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