Re: pigment (magentas)

From: Katharine Thayer ^lt;>
Date: 11/27/05-11:51:45 AM Z
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Hi All,
I seem to be over in a corner talking to myself about pigment while
everyone else is chatting about digital negatives, but never mind that;
I'll just carry on here.

It's interesting how the memory plays tricks on one. I was remembering
the PV 19 beta as a definitely blue-violet rather than a red-purple.
But when I went out to the studio to confirm my memory, I found that I
had remembered it bluer than it really is; it's still a red-purple,
though the bluest red-purple that I know of.

For comparison, I brushed on paper a sampling of some pigments that
have been used or recommended for magenta for tricolor gum, and have
uploaded them along with some comments. I didn't have time to do all
of the pigments/brands I have under that category, (I do have a chart
of all of them, but it's too big to fit on the scanner) but enough to
give a range of the colors. I used the pigment/gum mixes that I have
prepared for gum, rather than the paints right out of the tube. And
yes, it does look makeshift and dorky, but this is about substance, not
style ;--)


On Nov 26, 2005, at 8:55 PM, Katharine Thayer wrote:

> On Nov 21, 2005, at 6:45 AM, Marek Matusz wrote:
>> Juan,
>> I use Daniel Smith for tricolor gums:
>> Hansa Yellow medium (PY97),
>> Thalo Blue and Quinacridone rose (PV19) are an excellent set of
>> primary pigments for gum printing. Daniel Smith makes a number of
>> magenta quinacridones made from PV 19 and gives them different names.
>> I have tried maybe two of three, all equlally good.
> Marek,
> PV 19 is a bit confusing since there are two pigments designated
> under that number: PV 19 gamma, called commonly quinacridone rose,
> and PV 19 beta, called quinacridone violet. Daniel Smith markets two
> paints made from PV 19 gamma: "quinacridone rose" and "quinacridone
> red." "quinacridone rose" is lighter and slightly bluer than
> "quinacridone red" but they are otherwise very similar in hue. Daniel
> Smith also markets a PV 19 beta under the correct name "quinacridone
> violet." I wouldn't personally recommend the PV 19 beta for tricolor,
> as it's definitely a blue-violet, not what I would call a magenta at
> all. Or at least for anyone who is interested in somewhat realistic
> color, I wouldn't recommend the PV 19 beta.
> Katharine
Received on Sun Nov 27 11:52:37 2005

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