Re: pigment (magentas)

From: Marek Matusz ^lt;>
Date: 11/27/05-01:51:07 PM Z
Message-id: <BAY101-F9BEFA33F9C56DDB1207DDBB490@phx.gbl>

Good point Katharine about quinacridone violet. I have never tried it
myse;lf as the color looked off for the tricolor gums.

>From: Katharine Thayer <>
>Subject: Re: pigment (magentas)
>Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 09:51:45 -0800
>Hi All,
>I seem to be over in a corner talking to myself about pigment while
>everyone else is chatting about digital negatives, but never mind that;
>I'll just carry on here.
>It's interesting how the memory plays tricks on one. I was remembering the
>PV 19 beta as a definitely blue-violet rather than a red-purple. But when I
>went out to the studio to confirm my memory, I found that I had remembered
>it bluer than it really is; it's still a red-purple, though the bluest
>red-purple that I know of.
>For comparison, I brushed on paper a sampling of some pigments that have
>been used or recommended for magenta for tricolor gum, and have uploaded
>them along with some comments. I didn't have time to do all of the
>pigments/brands I have under that category, (I do have a chart of all of
>them, but it's too big to fit on the scanner) but enough to give a range of
>the colors. I used the pigment/gum mixes that I have prepared for gum,
>rather than the paints right out of the tube. And yes, it does look
>makeshift and dorky, but this is about substance, not style ;--)
>On Nov 26, 2005, at 8:55 PM, Katharine Thayer wrote:
>>On Nov 21, 2005, at 6:45 AM, Marek Matusz wrote:
>>>I use Daniel Smith for tricolor gums:
>>>Hansa Yellow medium (PY97),
>>>Thalo Blue and Quinacridone rose (PV19) are an excellent set of primary
>>>pigments for gum printing. Daniel Smith makes a number of magenta
>>>quinacridones made from PV 19 and gives them different names. I have
>>>tried maybe two of three, all equlally good.
>> PV 19 is a bit confusing since there are two pigments designated under
>>that number: PV 19 gamma, called commonly quinacridone rose, and PV 19
>>beta, called quinacridone violet. Daniel Smith markets two paints made
>>from PV 19 gamma: "quinacridone rose" and "quinacridone red."
>>"quinacridone rose" is lighter and slightly bluer than "quinacridone red"
>>but they are otherwise very similar in hue. Daniel Smith also markets a
>>PV 19 beta under the correct name "quinacridone violet." I wouldn't
>>personally recommend the PV 19 beta for tricolor, as it's definitely a
>>blue-violet, not what I would call a magenta at all. Or at least for
>>anyone who is interested in somewhat realistic color, I wouldn't recommend
>>the PV 19 beta.
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