Re: Gum problem(s)

From: Katharine Thayer ^lt;>
Date: 11/24/05-11:57:17 AM Z
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I think it's only fair to admit that I realize that my views are rather
  inconsistent on this point. Martin sent me a research paper recently
that I was delighted to get, and I don't see any problem with copying
and sending scientific papers; one assumes that it's about
disseminating knowledge and that no one would object to it. Scientists
usually get nothing but fame, if that, for having their work published;
they are paid by their institution for the time they spend writing the
article and expect no further payment. If I ever use this paper in
anything I write, I'll cite it in the usual way for scientific
citation, without feeling any obligation (nor do I think the authors
would suppose any obligation on my part as long as it was a simple
citation) to ask permission for my cite. So to be consistent, I
shouldn't care about Kosar either, but it seems different to me
somehow. Is it only that with a book, the author actually may get some
money for it? I don't know. I said I'm ambivalent; I think this
further explication simply illustrates my ambivalence.


On Nov 24, 2005, at 9:16 AM, Yves Gauvreau wrote:

> Excellent idea Katharine, I'd feel much better having permission to
> copy
> even if it's only part of it. If Kosar is not alive I'm sure someone
> could
> get in tuch with the publisher and from there one could find out who to
> contact.
> I'd be curious to know if major universities wouldn't have a copy of
> this
> book around??? But from what many of you said I wouldn't spent to much
> time
> on this, what's relevent to gum printing seems to be marginal at best.
> Yves
> PS. many people think copying stuff is a very minor thing until someone
> copies their stuff, then they think it's a major major offense....
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Katharine Thayer" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2005 11:46 AM
> Subject: Re: Gum problem(s)
>> On Nov 24, 2005, at 4:42 AM, MARTINM wrote:
>>> Being active in a somewhat different area (
>>> mainly, I
>>> don't quite feel qualified to answer your question. I assume Kosar
>>> would be
>>> a good starting point. "Kosar" would imply not only his book but both
>>> the
>>> literature he quotes from and the patents he refers to.
>>> By the way I scanned the whole book to my computer (resulting in a
>>> slightly
>>> messed up pagination). So I might be in the position to send out the
>>> whole
>>> thing to those interested. That would be two multi-paged TIF files
>>> (5.8MB
>>> and 4.6MB large)...
>> Actually, the chapter on dichromated colloids is probably the only
>> part
>> that would be useful to folks here.
>> I'm ambivalent about the copying and share Yves' concern about
>> copyright but at the same time, if the book has become so hard to
>> find that it has become for all intents and purposes unavailable to
>> most alt photo workers, then it sort of makes sense too. The book is
>> 40
>> years old, so the copyright is still in effect. Does anyone know if
>> Kosar is still around; could he be contacted for permission to copy?
>> Katharine
Received on Thu Nov 24 12:15:11 2005

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