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----- Original Message -----
> From: "Valdis Kletnieks" <Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu>

> Subject: Re: quietly....
> On Thu, 03 Feb 2011 18:14:00 EST, david raistrick said:
> > Er. That's not news. That's been the state of the art for what, 15+
> > years or so now? SIP (because it's peer to peer) and P2P are really
> > the
> > only things that actually give a damn about it.
> "It's client/server unless it's peer-to-peer" is almost a tautology,
> you know...

Yes, yes; and the first rule of Tautology Club is the first rule of 
Tautology Club.

-- jra