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Hi Chris

I did a paper about the early mailing lists including msggroup and it also
included a bit on Usenet at the end.

   ARPANET Mailing Lists and Usenet Newsgroups
      Creating an Open and Scientific Process
        for Technology Development and Diffusion

best wishes


On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 5:10 PM, Elizabeth Feinler <Feinler at earthlink.net>wrote:

> Hi Chris, et al,
> I am not sure what you are looking for - the content of the lists or the
> names of the people on the lists?  I don't know the names as they were
> bundled under a blanket distribution name; however, the Computer History
> Museum in Mountain View, CA does have some of the old contents of the
> mailing lists.  These are very incomplete, but would give you a flavor of
> what was discussed on the lists.  I know we have some Human-Nets messages,
> but no Sci-Fi that I can recall (at least not in the stuff I contributed).
>  I also remember a list of lists that tells what mailing lists were
> prevalent at the time.
> Paula Jabloner (jabloner at computerhistory.org) is the Head Archivist and
> would be the person to contact for permission to look at what we have.
>  Chris, I don't know where you are located.  If you are in Silicon Valley, I
> would be glad to show you what we have (with Paula's permission, of course,
> as these now belong to the museum.)
> Also, contact Peter Neumann at SRI as he is a long time member of CSL and
> might know if anyone there kept a copy of the mailing list and its contents.
> (probably Neumann or Pneumann at sri.com)
> Another contact might be Richard Zellich.  He used to be with the Army in
> the St. Louis area.  I have lost touch with him; however, his last name is
> unusual so you might be able to find it online.  Rich used to keep up the
> list-of-lists and often provided this to the NIC way back when.
> I am sending this to the Internet-history group also, to urge those of you
> that might have copies of the contents of the old distribution lists, to let
> us know at the museum where they live online, or  consider donating them, if
> in hardcopy.
> Regards,
> Jake Feinler
>  On Jul 6, 2009, at 1:20 PM, Jeff Rulifson wrote:
> Jake: Can you help Vint help Chris find any ARPANET email list from the
> period between 1970 and 1975? Thanks, Jeff
> On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 3:22 AM, Vint Cerf <vint at google.com> wrote:
>> les, jeff
>> who might know more about these early mailing lists? maybe jake feinler??
>> someone at Stanford?
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>  *From: *"Christopher S. Leslie" <cleslie at poly.edu>
>> *Date: *July 6, 2009 4:53:04 AM EDT
>> *To: *internet-his <internet-history at postel.org>
>> internet-history at [email protected] <internet-history at postel.org>
>>     *Subject: **[ih] arpanet mailing lists*
>>   Dear Internet History List:
>> Greetings. I am trying to learn more about the original mailing lists on
>> ARPANET, particularly sf-lovers (sfl at sri-csl) and human-nets, for a book
>> on science fiction. Although I see some information about these lists when
>> they were forwarded to Usenet, there earlier lists on ARPANET that predate
>> Usenet by a few years (perhaps as early as 1975).
>> I do not know what to expect from this query, but I would appreciate any
>> and all leads. I am hopeful that somewhere in the world there is a complete
>> archive, but that of course would be too good to be true. If anyone have
>> memories of this list, or can put me into contact with someone who does,
>> please let me know. I would also appreciate anyone who can provide me with
>> citations to research about this topic, as my search has turned up very
>> little.
>> Sincerely,
>> Chris Leslie
>>   Christopher S. Leslie, Ph.D.
>> Co-Advisor, Science and Technology Studies
>> Polytechnic Institute of New York University
>> 6 MetroTech Center, RH 213e
>> Brooklyn, NY 11201
>> (718) 260-3130
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