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Hi Chris, et al,

I am not sure what you are looking for - the content of the lists or  
the names of the people on the lists?  I don't know the names as they  
were bundled under a blanket distribution name; however, the Computer  
History Museum in Mountain View, CA does have some of the old contents  
of the mailing lists.  These are very incomplete, but would give you a  
flavor of what was discussed on the lists.  I know we have some Human- 
Nets messages, but no Sci-Fi that I can recall (at least not in the  
stuff I contributed).  I also remember a list of lists that tells what  
mailing lists were prevalent at the time.

Paula Jabloner (jabloner at computerhistory.org) is the Head Archivist  
and would be the person to contact for permission to look at what we  
have.  Chris, I don't know where you are located.  If you are in  
Silicon Valley, I would be glad to show you what we have (with Paula's  
permission, of course, as these now belong to the museum.)

Also, contact Peter Neumann at SRI as he is a long time member of CSL  
and might know if anyone there kept a copy of the mailing list and its  
contents. (probably Neumann or Pneumann at sri.com)

Another contact might be Richard Zellich.  He used to be with the Army  
in the St. Louis area.  I have lost touch with him; however, his last  
name is unusual so you might be able to find it online.  Rich used to  
keep up the list-of-lists and often provided this to the NIC way back  

I am sending this to the Internet-history group also, to urge those of  
you that might have copies of the contents of the old distribution  
lists, to let us know at the museum where they live online, or   
consider donating them, if in hardcopy.


Jake Feinler
On Jul 6, 2009, at 1:20 PM, Jeff Rulifson wrote:

> Jake: Can you help Vint help Chris find any ARPANET email list from  
> the period between 1970 and 1975? Thanks, Jeff
> On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 3:22 AM, Vint Cerf <vint at google.com> wrote:
> les, jeff
> who might know more about these early mailing lists? maybe jake  
> feinler?? someone at Stanford?
> Begin forwarded message:
>> From: "Christopher S. Leslie" <cleslie at poly.edu>
>> Date: July 6, 2009 4:53:04 AM EDT
>> To: internet-hisinternet-history at [email protected]
>> Subject: [ih] arpanet mailing lists
>> Dear Internet History List:
>> Greetings. I am trying to learn more about the original mailing  
>> lists on ARPANET, particularly sf-lovers (sfl at sri-csl) and human- 
>> nets, for a book on science fiction. Although I see some  
>> information about these lists when they were forwarded to Usenet,  
>> there earlier lists on ARPANET that predate Usenet by a few years  
>> (perhaps as early as 1975).
>> I do not know what to expect from this query, but I would  
>> appreciate any and all leads. I am hopeful that somewhere in the  
>> world there is a complete archive, but that of course would be too  
>> good to be true. If anyone have memories of this list, or can put  
>> me into contact with someone who does, please let me know. I would  
>> also appreciate anyone who can provide me with citations to  
>> research about this topic, as my search has turned up very little.
>> Sincerely,
>> Chris Leslie
>> Christopher S. Leslie, Ph.D.
>> Co-Advisor, Science and Technology Studies
>> Polytechnic Institute of New York University
>> 6 MetroTech Center, RH 213e
>> Brooklyn, NY 11201
>> (718) 260-3130
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