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On April 6, 2015 2:18:40 PM Razer <[email protected]> wrote:
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> >> 1. Re: Greenwald, Scahill step down from The Intercept (Cari Machet)
> >> 2. Re: Greenwald, Scahill step down from The Intercept (c4p0)
> >> 3. GPAs vs todays anonymous overlay networks (grarpamp)
> >> 4. Re: Fwd: The West's Shame (jim bell)
> >> 5. Re: Greenwald, Scahill step down from The Intercept (Bethany)
> >>
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> >> Message: 1
> >> Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2015 18:59:30 +0200
> >> From: Cari Machet <[email protected]>
> >> To: Alexis Wattel <[email protected]>
> >> Cc: cpunks <[email protected]>
> >> Subject: Re: Greenwald, Scahill step down from The Intercept
> >> Message-ID:
> >> <CAGRDzQWhCiLWPJ7D=Mefskz8_CjkTTv2wHKOokdHX1FeH7phJQ@mail.gmail.com>
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> >>
> >> its not a 'claim' watch his film that was up for an academy award
> >>
> >> there is a scene in mogadishu where he is in the morgue there is a dead
> >> body and him in the scene he is standing right next to it - the
> person was
> >> hit by a drone strike
> >>
> >> no journalist gets filmed with dead bodies it is unethical it never
> happens
> >>
> >> perhaps if you were a journalist in the field you would understand
> >>
> >> it isnt 'slander' if it is true so maybe you dont know anything about law
> >> either
> >>
> >> just because you have not run across other people criticising the great
> >> perfect white guy jeremy scahill doesnt mean it isnt happening - you seem
> >> to assume a lot and not ask questions just flame out assuming you know
> >> everything i think that is known as narcissism which people go to
> >> psychiatrists to get help working out of as its such a lethal
> condition but
> >> it isnt easy because narcissists think they are right all the time
> >>
> >> besides even if i was the only one criticising jeremy that doesnt
> prove me
> >> wrong - prove me wrong > go ahead try...
> >>
> >> also i knew the 'report' was false that you assume i thought it was true
> >> again proves my premise that you are narcissistic
> >>
> >> On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 4:03 PM, Alexis Wattel <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Speaking about facts checking: intrigued by these allegations I
> looked up
> >>> wiki on Omydiar, and his network association is said to have
> partnered with
> >>> the CIA, which is not generally all about "philanthropy", although this
> >>> claim lack any reference.
> >>>
> >>> Would someone know why is the Agency mentioned there?
> >>>
> >>> Aside from that, financed projects include "mobile intelligence" for
> >>> prospectors and deploying banks onto mobile phones to make sure everyone
> >>> even in Africa pays his fees to the landlords. They even dare to say
> it's
> >>> cheaper than cash. I wonder how that is.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Anyway... Wild allegations are very entertaining, but seriously
> what's the
> >>> real meaning of this about Tor?
> >>> Because no technical evidence suggest it is "backdoored" (whatever that
> >>> would mean, this is a trendy word, makes the one who says it sound
> so l33t
> >>> in journalism circles).
> >>>
> >>> On the other hand, Tor devs are more and more often prone on reminding
> >>> that traffic analysis/correlation is not part of their threat model. The
> >>> problem is that it is nowadays a definitely proven capability of
> >>> adversaries.
> >>>
> >>> I really can't help thinking this is a deliberate desire of keeping
> Tor at
> >>> government's reach because the eternal argument they oppose do not
> stand.
> >>> They say that randomized wait times at each relay would make the traffic
> >>> too slow. But I remember using Tor 8 years ago when it took forever
> to load
> >>> a Web page, and still did I use it in spite of this major extra effort,
> >>> because anonymous surfing was such a blast.
> >>> Today the network is fast enough to be able to swap 25% speed for a
> >>> massive increase of anonymity.
> >>> The other solution, randomized length of packets with dummy padding
> >>> discarded at each relay would impact even less on responsiveness.
> >>>
> >>> I honestly can't see why they legitimately refuse to implement this.
> >>> They seem to think that the need to observe both ends is too hard. Did
> >>> they hear about the BGP routing attack that targeted Iceland? Funny
> how the
> >>> Silk Road server was found a month later in... Oh shit, Iceland.
> >>>
> >>> When you claim to protect activists with government money, you'd better
> >>> not show dubious intentions if people trust are what you depend on.
> Because
> >>> that's why Tor was opened at first. The government officials needed
> to hide
> >>> among civilian traffic. They do need the people to run nodes.
> >>>
> >>> Le 6 avril 2015 15:04:21 CEST, xezha <[email protected]> a écrit :
> >>>>
> >>>>
> > I think I may have to leave this list.
> >
> > Can you really not tell the difference between a real article and
> > something made up/joke/propaganda?
> > Please be a little more critical and back up for claims before slandering
> > someones name. Even 5 minutes of research with google will demonstrate
> > that
> > you are the only source of ANY claims about Jeremy Scahills unethical
> > journalism. You seem to have a screw loose.
> >
> > Xe
> >
> >
> > On 06/04/15 02:35, Cari Machet wrote:
> > >>>>> thank you!!
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> i just want to say that @jeremyscahill took a selfie with a
> > (murdered)
> > dead body which no & i mean no journalist does - no one ... he is a very
> > sick capitalist fascist
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> he has done more than this but i wont go on & on
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 1:58 AM, Juan <[email protected]
> > <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]>> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On Sat, 04 Apr 2015 22:29:06 -0700
> > >>>>> Seth <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]>>
> > wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> > It's about damn time ;)
> > >>>>> >
> > >>>>> >
> >
> http://chronicle.su/2015/03/07/greenwald-scahill-step-down-from-the-intercept/
> > >>>>> >
> > >>>>> >
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> is this some kind of stupid 'joke' ?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> --
> > >>>>> Cari Machet
> > >>>>> NYC 646-436-7795
> > >>>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> > <[email protected]>
> > >>>>> AIM carismachet
> > >>>>> Syria +963-099 277 3243
> > >>>>> Amman +962 077 636 9407
> > >>>>> Berlin +49 152 11779219
> > >>>>> Reykjavik +354 894 8650
> > >>>>> Twitter: @carimachet <https://twitter.com/carimachet>
> > <https://twitter.com/carimachet>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> 7035 690E 5E47 41D4 B0E5 B3D1 AF90 49D6 BE09 2187
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Ruh-roh, this is now necessary: This email is intended only for the
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> > are not
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> > without
> > >>>>> permission is strictly prohibited.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> >
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Cari Machet
> >> NYC 646-436-7795
> >> [email protected]
> >> AIM carismachet
> >> Syria +963-099 277 3243
> >> Amman +962 077 636 9407
> >> Berlin +49 152 11779219
> >> Reykjavik +354 894 8650
> >> Twitter: @carimachet <https://twitter.com/carimachet>
> >>
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> >>
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> >> Message: 2
> >> Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2015 19:22:15 +0200
> >> From: c4p0 <[email protected]>
> >> To: [email protected]
> >> Subject: Re: Greenwald, Scahill step down from The Intercept
> >> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> >>
> >> Is difficult trust, don't say more.
> >>
> >> On 04/05/2015 07:29 AM, Seth wrote:
> >>> It's about damn time ;)
> >>>
> >>>
> http://chronicle.su/2015/03/07/greenwald-scahill-step-down-from-the-intercept/
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 3
> >> Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2015 13:43:38 -0400
> >> From: grarpamp <[email protected]>
> >> To: [email protected]
> >> Subject: GPAs vs todays anonymous overlay networks
> >> Message-ID:
> >> <CAD2Ti2-wW4QDj3S1G6A5HrcLyz+33XoVxTSdUd-xq9_HysoHpw@mail.gmail.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> >>
> >> On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 10:03 AM, Alexis Wattel <[email protected]> .
> >>> https://cpunks.org//pipermail/cypherpunks/2015-April/007186.html
> >>
> >>> traffic analysis/correlation is not part of their threat model. The
> problem
> >>> is that it is nowadays a definitely proven capability of adversaries.
> >>
> >>> They say that randomized wait times at each relay would make the
> traffic too
> >>> slow.
> >>
> >> The delay parameters must be specified before using words like "too
> >> slow[ed]" to describe the relative impacts to the full path. Further,
> >> relevance to chosen application must be considered. Some users
> >> do realtime HS2HS text/voice/video over it.
> >>
> >>> The other solution, randomized length of packets with dummy padding
> >>> discarded at each relay would impact even less on responsiveness.
> >>
> >> Using a fixed length cell network and keeping links otherwise full of
> >> chaff of said length is interesting defense to GPA correlation attack.
> >> Random length cells, even if some cars are removed, still form a
> >> uniquely identifiable train (particularly at entry/exit). Thus not
> useful.
> >>
> >>> deliberate desire of keeping Tor at government's reach
> >>
> >> [queue usual comments on funding, centralized dirauths, TCP
> >> only, etc]
> >>
> >> It's opensource, fork it.
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 4
> >> Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2015 17:40:44 +0000 (UTC)
> >> From: jim bell <[email protected]>
> >> To: Ð?лекÑ?андÑ? <[email protected]>, "[email protected]"
> >> <[email protected]>
> >> Subject: Re: Fwd: The West's Shame
> >> Message-ID:
> >> <[email protected]>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >>
> >> I wonder if the person (Brad Cabana) who wrote the essay below is
> aware of the "Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact", a non-agression pact between
> Germany and the Soviet Union?
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov%E2%80%93Ribbentrop_Pact My
> understanding is that this agreement allowed (and was intended to allow)
> Germany to attack the Western European countries without fear of Russian
> attack, and it did so. The only thing which ended that agreement was
> the attack by Germany on Russia in 1941. The essay claims, "Hitler
> would have crushed Britain in short order if he had not diverted
> millions of German men to the invasion of the Soviet Union." But
> apparently the only reason Germany attacked Russia was because of its
> inability to invade England, and there is absolutely no reason to
> believe that Russia would have attacked Germany absent Germany's prior
> attack on Russia. So what was Brad Cabana smoking?Should we be
> sympathetic to the Soviets in this matter? There's an old joke about a
> kid who kills his parents, and throws himself on the mercy of the judge,
> claiming "But I'm an orphan!!!".
> >> The essay, below, selectively describes WHAT happened, but omits the
> WHY it happened. Yes, there was a Soviet "sacrifice", but it was made
> necessary by the actions of the Soviets themselves. Jim Bell
> >>
> >> On Sunday, April 5, 2015 9:57 PM, Ð?лекÑ?андÑ?
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Brad Cabana
> >>
> >> The West's Shame
> >>
> >> There is something so bizarre, so inhumane about Western countries
> boycotting the parade for the 70th anniversary of the Soviet victory
> over Germany in World War II that I just had to write on it. Recently,
> the prime minister of the United Kingdom announced he will not be
> attending the parade. Previous to that, countries like Germany and the
> United States had announced the same. It's only a parade you say? No
> it's more than that.
> >>
> >> The Soviet Union sacrificed 25 million people to defeat Nazi Germany
> in World War II. A sacrifice beyond imagination, and far, far greater
> than all the countries fighting Nazi Germany combined. In comparison,
> the Holocaust, which is rightly remembered annually, claimed the lives
> of six million people of the Jewish faith. These are really the two true
> tragedy's of World War II unleashed on the world by Nazi Germany. The
> stories of Soviet soldiers advancing without weapons to pickup the rifle
> of the next dead soldier are well known. The bloodbath of Stalingrad,
> the siege of Leningrad, the millions of Soviet soldiers killed and
> captured (only to then die in POW camps) during the early days of the
> German invasion, and so on, all markers of the brutality of man against
> his own, stand large in the history of the world. In fact, the German
> invasion of the Soviet Union stands as the largest military battle in
> the history of man.
> >>
> >> Yet, western leaders have decided to not attend the parade that is
> meant to honour that sacrifice. When Britain announced it would not
> attend, well, that's the straw that broke the camel's back frankly. Of
> all the countries in the world, Britain was saved by the massive waves
> of young Soviet men and woman that bled the German army white. Hitler
> would have crushed Britain in short order if he had not diverted
> millions of German men to the invasion of the Soviet Union. Crucially,
> the diversion of aircraft, fighters and bombers, to the Soviet front
> saved Britain from the entire annihilation of a full blown, continuous
> air campaign, and the subsequent naval invasion that would certainly
> have occurred. In reality, the western allies left Stalin almost alone
> in Europe to battle the Nazi's, and take the majority of the casualties
> in doing so. By the time D-Day finally arrived, the German army and air
> force was only a shadow of it's former self as it existed in 1941. As
> bad and hard as it was for the allies to march east through Europe to
> Berlin, without the Soviet people's sacrifice, it would have never happened.
> >>
> >> It's a place of honour in human history. To quarrel with that is to
> go beyond ignorance. To quarrel with that is the hateful and arrogant
> bastion of the very seeds that caused World War II in the first place.
> And now, as if history is repeating itself, Western leaders have entered
> that bastion of ignorance and arrogance to punish Russia for the
> Ukrainian civil war. By contrast, Russian president Putin, despite the
> ongoing conflict in Ukraine, attended the 70th anniversary of the D-Day
> landings in France last year. He was given the proverbial cold shoulder
> by western leaders, yet he subjected himself to that, in honour of the
> sacrifice of the men of Canada, Britain and the United States. He did
> not ignore the history or the price in blood of that action. He honoured
> it. He put the sacrifice ahead of his political position, and it could
> even be said his personal shunning. Now that the time is here to do the
> same for the Soviet Union's dead, we cannot bring ourselves to do the same.
> >>
> >> What that says about us is really quite obvious. It means we haven't
> learned the lessons of history. That our political leadership has become
> so petty, so detached from historical reality, that it attempts to
> rewrite the history of 25 million souls. That is the danger of all of
> this. Russians don't really need the West to honour their sacrifice.
> They know it all too well. It's the West that needs to honour that
> sacrifice so it can clearly see the dangers of war on a scale far more
> destructive than anything it experienced on the western front, or
> anywhere else in history. Poland started this train rolling by refusing
> to invite the Russian president to the Holocaust remembrance at
> Auschwitz last year. This despite the fact that the Soviet army
> liberated all of Poland, and specifically Auschwitz from German armies.
> >>
> >> The actions of our western politicians say more about us than the
> Russians could ever say themselves. They have portrayed us as people who
> refuse to honour the dead, those that gave their lives in another time
> to defeat a tyrant bent on world domination, and in doing so dishonour
> those men and women. As the son of a young man, training in England,
> fighting in North Africa, Italy, Holland, and Germany through those
> tumultuous years of war and senseless slaughter, I recognize the Soviet
> sacrifice that probably saved my Dad's life. How could you not? Yet,
> that is exactly what our politicians are doing today. You don't have to
> be a lover of this country, or that country to recognize and honour
> grave human injustice committed on a massive scale. You just have to be
> humane, and subordinate your own bias in the remembrance of the fallen.
> Is that really so hard? Isn't that what is expected of us all? Wouldn't
> we expect that from our children? I've never been so ashamed of the
> actions of our governments than I am now with the boycott of that parade
> in Moscow.
> >>
> >> http://rocksolidpolitics.blogspot.ru/2015/03/the-wests-shame.html
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >> Message: 5
> >> Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2015 14:22:04 -0400
> >> From: Bethany <[email protected]>
> >> To: [email protected]
> >> Subject: Re: Greenwald, Scahill step down from The Intercept
> >> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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> >>
> >> On 06/04/15 12:59 PM, Cari Machet wrote:
> >>> its not a 'claim' watch his film that was up for an academy award
> >>>
> >>> there is a scene in mogadishu where he is in the morgue there is a
> >> dead body and him in the scene he is standing right next to it - the
> >> person was hit by a drone strike
> >>>
> >>> no journalist gets filmed with dead bodies it is unethical it never
> >> happens
> >>>
> >>> perhaps if you were a journalist in the field you would understand
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Absolutely. The first thing any good journalist should think when he's
> >> investigating drone strikes and is permitted to witness the examination
> >> of a body of a victim is "shit, don't film me here, where I am! So
> gauche!"
> >>
> >>> On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 4:03 PM, Alexis Wattel
> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Speaking about facts checking: intrigued by these allegations I
> >> looked up wiki on Omydiar, and his network association is said to have
> >> partnered with the CIA, which is not generally all about "philanthropy",
> >> although this claim lack any reference.
> >>>
> >>> Would someone know why is the Agency mentioned there?
> >>>
> >>> Aside from that, financed projects include "mobile intelligence"
> >> for prospectors and deploying banks onto mobile phones to make sure
> >> everyone even in Africa pays his fees to the landlords. They even dare
> >> to say it's cheaper than cash. I wonder how that is.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Anyway... Wild allegations are very entertaining, but seriously
> >> what's the real meaning of this about Tor?
> >>> Because no technical evidence suggest it is "backdoored" (whatever
> >> that would mean, this is a trendy word, makes the one who says it sound
> >> so l33t in journalism circles).
> >>>
> >>> On the other hand, Tor devs are more and more often prone on
> >> reminding that traffic analysis/correlation is not part of their threat
> >> model. The problem is that it is nowadays a definitely proven capability
> >> of adversaries.
> >>>
> >>> I really can't help thinking this is a deliberate desire of
> >> keeping Tor at government's reach because the eternal argument they
> >> oppose do not stand. They say that randomized wait times at each relay
> >> would make the traffic too slow. But I remember using Tor 8 years ago
> >> when it took forever to load a Web page, and still did I use it in spite
> >> of this major extra effort, because anonymous surfing was such a blast.
> >>> Today the network is fast enough to be able to swap 25% speed for
> >> a massive increase of anonymity.
> >>> The other solution, randomized length of packets with dummy
> >> padding discarded at each relay would impact even less on responsiveness.
> >>>
> >>> I honestly can't see why they legitimately refuse to implement this.
> >>> They seem to think that the need to observe both ends is too hard.
> >> Did they hear about the BGP routing attack that targeted Iceland? Funny
> >> how the Silk Road server was found a month later in... Oh shit, Iceland.
> >>>
> >>> When you claim to protect activists with government money, you'd
> >> better not show dubious intentions if people trust are what you depend
> >> on. Because that's why Tor was opened at first. The government officials
> >> needed to hide among civilian traffic. They do need the people to run
> nodes.
> >>>
> >>> Le 6 avril 2015 15:04:21 CEST, xezha <[email protected]
> >> <mailto:[email protected]>> a écrit :
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I think I may have to leave this list.
> >>>
> >>> Can you really not tell the difference between a real article and
> >> something made up/joke/propaganda?
> >>> Please be a little more critical and back up for claims before
> >> slandering someones name. Even 5 minutes of research with google will
> >> demonstrate that you are the only source of ANY claims about Jeremy
> >> Scahills unethical journalism. You seem to have a screw loose.
> >>>
> >>> Xe
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 06/04/15 02:35, Cari Machet wrote:
> >>>> thank you!!
> >>>
> >>>> i just want to say that @jeremyscahill took a selfie with a
> >> (murdered) dead body which no & i mean no journalist does - no one ...
> >> he is a very sick capitalist fascist
> >>>
> >>>> he has done more than this but i wont go on & on
> >>>
> >>>> On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 1:58 AM, Juan <[email protected]
> >> <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
> >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On Sat, 04 Apr 2015 22:29:06 -0700
> >>>> Seth <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> >> <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> > It's about damn time ;)
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>
> http://chronicle.su/2015/03/07/greenwald-scahill-step-down-from-the-intercept/
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> is this some kind of stupid 'joke' ?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Cari Machet
> >>>> NYC 646-436-7795 <tel:646-436-7795>
> >>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> >> <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
> >>>> AIM carismachet
> >>>> Syria +963-099 277 3243
> >>>> Amman +962 077 636 9407
> >>>> Berlin +49 152 11779219 <tel:%2B49%20152%2011779219>
> >>>> Reykjavik +354 894 8650 <tel:%2B354%20894%208650>
> >>>> Twitter: @carimachet <https://twitter.com/carimachet>
> >> <https://twitter.com/carimachet>
> >>>
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> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Cari Machet
> >>> NYC 646-436-7795
> >>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> >>> AIM carismachet
> >>> Syria +963-099 277 3243
> >>> Amman +962 077 636 9407
> >>> Berlin +49 152 11779219
> >>> Reykjavik +354 894 8650
> >>> Twitter: @carimachet <https://twitter.com/carimachet>
> >>>
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