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[cryptography] NSA Attacks on VPN, SSL, TLS, SSH, Tor

dan are you the fucker that doxed me on this list?


seth oh yes agreed monolith is inaccurate frames but i think the security
state - that has the job of protecting the system no matter what the system
looks like or does - is pretty homogenous

On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 5:22 AM, grarpamp <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 7:17 AM, John Young <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Cryptome does not pretend to provide illusory security, that is security.
> > It is a vile, rotten, corrupt endeavor, like life. Chuckle.
> > Visitors, readers, consumers must be skeptical of security, and not rely
> > [...]
> All due respect to Cryptome, and points well made and taken.
> Yet this isn't really an effective response to the issue at hand.
> While we should and must be skeptical... until contrary proof
> exists we should be taking advantage of all means available
> regarding distribution integrity and even provenance and secret
> comms if desired. That's hard, it involves some work, and homework.
> Yet until such proof, it's probably better than going bare assed to
> the Sun.
> > Still, Cryptome endorses the continuing struggle to improve citizen
> > ...
> > common math against the deadly germs.
> Indeed.
> > One way to do that is to not oversell it, tone down the threats, reduce
> Interestingly true in some regards. Yet in the context herein, it's
> probably not the place to make a stand. Especially considering
> the stand itself is in one's very existance all so long. Is it not?
> Oh were there but more of this kind, be they true or not :)

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