RE: cyano recipe

From: Eric Neilsen ^lt;[email protected]>
Date: 05/04/05-08:36:59 AM Z
Message-id: <200505041436.j44EaoM7004973@spamf1.usask.ca>

K, If speed is the issue, then by all means pre mix it and possibly break up
the solutions into several smaller containers for break out groups. You can
bring a small quantity of the chemicals to show them how easy it is to mix,
and then go through the process of coating. Show your pre exposed paper and
process it, then let them have fun. That's how I did it with 1st- 3rd
graders. They all didn't get to coat as I only had 50 minutes to show them
the ideas and make some sun exposures.

The inaccurate part about tsp, tbsp, cups, etc of dry is in the
interpretation of good measure. There is a lot that can be done with the
good ol' eye balling it and that's great. I find that the biggest log jam
will be on the wet side and not the dry side of the experience. Although it
sounds like you'll be using some negs, so have plenty of contact set-ups
ready. Have fun!

Eric Neilsen Photography
4101 Commerce Street
Suite 9
Dallas, TX 75226
http://e.neilsen.home.att.net
http://ericneilsenphotography.com
 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: kris [mailto:kris@eq-photo.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 8:06 AM
> To: alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca
> Subject: Re: cyano recipe
>
> wow!
> what responses!
>
> first--Christina's response was for a 2:1 solution; I just adjusted for
> a 1:1 solution (because I'm more comfortable with that)...
>
> second--i have no doubt that high school students can measure. however,
> i have 2 hours in which to do a workshop, and would prefer not making
> them (20 or so) weigh out their chemicals--time simply doesn't permit
> it. in any case, what's inaccurate about it? i converted everything
> quite precisely, i thought...
>
> plus, i know they have learned the chemical precision (for silver
> gelatin printing & tank development) thus far in their coursework;
> what's wrong with learning a little *im-*precision? i'll be giving them
> references and resources to pursue, but we'll be using holgas to make 2
> 1/4 contact images... alternative ways of making images, true, but i
> want to emphasize alternative ways of /seeing/, thus deemphasizing what
> they have thus far learned... ultimately, it's up to *them* to decide
> if/how they want to pursue the craft (or "art"): with technical rigour,
> by feel, some combination, etc.
>
> we'll also be using the school's photocopier, and whatever acetate and
> markers are handy. trying to operationalize Ware's concept of diaphane,
> is all...
>
> k
>
>
>
> Eric Neilsen wrote:
> > Kris, I can understand the lack of equipment available to HS students,
> but
> > why not show them the way to do it and then just have some already
> mixed.
> > What will they get from a less accurate presentation? Does the school
> not
> > have a science department? A bit of devil's advocate here but I don't
> > understand justifying a looser approach to an experience because it just
> HS
> > students.
> >
> > Eric Neilsen Photography
> > 4101 Commerce Street
> > Suite 9
> > Dallas, TX 75226
> > http://e.neilsen.home.att.net
> > http://ericneilsenphotography.com
> >
> >
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: kris [mailto:kris@eq-photo.com]
> >>Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 7:15 PM
> >>To: alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca
> >>Subject: cyano recipe
> >>
> >>hey all--
> >>anyone have a basic cyanotype recipe that uses baking-type measures
> >>rather than weights? (I.e. 2 tbsp. pot cyanide + 4 cups water; 1/2 cup
> >>ferric ammonium citrate + 4 cups water)
> >>
> >>trying to help out some high school kids...
> >>
> >>many thanks
> >>k
> >
> >
> >
Received on Wed May 4 08:37:20 2005

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