Re: Re: jewelia one last time.

From: [email protected]
Date: 03/10/05-05:49:18 PM Z
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This is indeed an unusual message for me to send but, for the first time, I have to side with Judy. Someone asked a question and Judy answered it concisely, apparently factually and without her usual rudeness, rancor, obnoxious, sexist rant that we have all come to expect. Way to go Judy. Maybe the switch to no caffeine is working.

For some of you others, ease up on the PC button.


>From: Dave Soemarko
>Date: Thu Mar 10 12:38:16 CST 2005
>Subject: Re: jewelia one last time.

>Hi All,
>I hope I won't get caught in all these arguments and debates, but as an
>oldtimer, I must say that I think Judy's original post was neutral, factual,
>and you might even call it historical. I don't see anything demeaning in it.
>Jewelia did have a sex change. She told the list about it beforehand. If I
>remember correctly, she foretold her "death." Since that happened before the
>operation, I took not as meaning that she would physically die, but that she
>would become a completely new/different person, and that was what Judy
>simply said.
>As for subsequent posts, we can always blame someone, but that will get us
>nowhere. We can say Mr. Ptak shouldn't have blamed someone before checking
>the facts, or that Judy shouldn't have been so angry because the other
>person was new and didn't know the history, or that Sandy shouldn't have
>added his comment, or that Bob shouldn't say... etc. etc., but we also know
>things like this are not always logical. People have feeling, emotion and
>also preference and right to opinions. Sometimes we say I understand this
>person is wrong, but it is understandable, but the other person shouldn't
>have done/said this or that, etc. etc., but when we do that we are already
>taking side. One side is more understandable, the other is wronger....
>So maybe we should leave this behind. Can we? I still feel it is great to
>"know" so many people from this list. I haven't been making prints for a
>while, but I am still on the list. Sometimes when I read emails from this
>list or see someone's name on a certain publication, I have that feeling of
>hey I know him and that I have't know these people for nearly (or more
>than?) 10 years. Isn't that great? Ten years is a long time. I still hope to
>meet some of you in person some time. I think that would be cool!
>This list is great. Let us appreciate it and appreciate and celebrate our
>knowing each other for a decade!
>Dave S
Received on Thu Mar 10 17:50:26 2005

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