Re: RE:Just the facts, Ma'am, Just the facts... Kodak B&W Paper Discontinued

From: SteveS ^lt;[email protected]>
Date: 07/13/05-10:19:04 AM Z
Message-id: <000401c587c6$980de910$4802280a@VALUED65BAD02C>

It's early in the morning, and I have to get warmed up writing something, so
I have elected to respond to this note below the comment from Bob Kiss.

In the book - something like - California Pictoralism, published by the
Getty Museum where it describes the beginning of photography groups after
the San Francisco earthquake. They talk about the 'business' of
photography, which was mostly in illustrations. There is a quote from Ansel
Adams, who was illuminating his group that met in Oakland, the Brennan
Group, about the beginnings of manufactured photographic printing paper by
Defender. His opinion was that that would revolutionize photography and
give photographers a consistency never before realized; and we didn't have
to spend the time making our own paper.

Film won't go away.

S.
----- Original Message -----
From: <wcharmon@wt.net>
To: <alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 9:07 AM
Subject: RE:Just the facts, Ma'am, Just the facts... Kodak B&W Paper
Discontinued

> Quoting BOB KISS <bobkiss@caribsurf.com>:
>
>> DEAR LIST,
>> Let's examine the evidence:
>> 1) Michael and Paula have not only stocked AZO...they are contracting
>> with a
>> manufacturer to produce a top quality chloride contact paper to replace
>> it!
>> 2) Kentmere has introduced their own fine art silver/gelatin papers and
>> are
>> doing a BIG advertising push. All this while we are hearing of
>> implosions
>> from Kodak, Ilford, etc., etc!
>
> I had an interesting phone conversation this morning about the paper
> situation
> in general. Now admittedly, this is third hand information, so please
> chime in
> if you have some actual knowledge or expertise in this area.
>
> The gist of the conversation was that currently there is only one
> manufacturing plant in Germany that is coating the baryta on the paper
> stock
> that ALL the paper manufacturers send them for getting their paper base
> which
> they then coat with their particular proprietary gelatin emulsions.
> Supposedly, this plant is operating only 1 of 9 lines a few times a month.
> And
> when they decide that this business is just not much of a business, then
> POOF!
> no more factory paper, even if a manufacturer would like to make it. In
> other
> words, the critical factor may have less to do with the market optimism of
> any
> given photo paper maker than with the fate of this baryta coating
> operation.
>
> Again, this may belong in the urban legend category, but its provenance is
> from someone who is very technically astute and very close to the
> goings-on in
> Rochester.
>
> I dunno, something to ponder for sure. And if paper disappears, will there
> be
> any reason to continue making film?
>
>
> Interesting times,
>
> Eeyore
>
>
Received on Wed Jul 13 10:19:24 2005

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