Re: silvery sheen & fisheyes

From: epona ^lt;>
Date: 01/08/04-11:41:55 AM Z
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I wonder.....

Clay you may be on to something here....I discounted Christina's
suggestion of bronzing because I had it in my head bronzing would be
brown.....though your description makes me wonder if is the case.
However it occurred on toned prints as well. I'll run some test
exposures this evening to make sure what I eyeball as "too light"
isn't actually "right on". Kinda hard to tell because
aaaarrrrgggghhhyrotype prints out rather orangey. Thanks for the


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On Jan 8, 2004, at 12:22 PM, Clay Harmon wrote:

> Is the sheen only in the deep shadowed areas? If so, I'm guessing it
> may be like the so-called bronzing that you can sometimes get when
> printing palladium. It seems to be caused by too much light hitting
> too little sensitizer/metal. In palladium printing, it can be usually
> be solved by double coating and being very careful not to overexpose.
> I have run into the same problem occasionally with VDB's made with
> very high contrast negatives where the deep shadow areas were really
> blasted with UV in order to get the highlights to print with some
> detail. Usually toning prior to fixing would take care of the problem.
> Clay
> On Jan 8, 2004, at 11:11 AM, epona wrote:
>> hmm. perhaps i should have mentioned this sheen was not visible
>> until the print dried - while wet, it looked pretty darn good. i
>> air-dried it overnight.
>> thx,
>> ~christine
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> "Crazy" is a term of art: "Insane" is a term of Law. Remember that,
>> and you will save yourself a lot of trouble.
>> ~ Hunter S. Thompson
>> On Jan 7, 2004, at 10:33 PM, Judy Seigel wrote:
>>> On Thu, 8 Jan 2004, Kate Mahoney wrote:
>>>> To add to this - I've been watching for fish-eyes since this
>>>> discussion
>>>> began - I get them, but because I use a roller to smooth off the
>>>> coat, they
>>>> disappear entirely. I agree with Dave on this, another brushing
>>>> will get rid
>>> I'm not sure what fish eyes are -- don't think I've seen them. But I
>>> wonder -- has anyone who put a drop of Kremer anti-foam in the
>>> gelatin
>>> gotten fish eyes?
>>> Then about the silvering on the argyrotype... There may be no
>>> connection,
>>> but -- we found that VDB never silvered out when it wasn't heat
>>> dried...
>>> tho it often did (depending on paper and contrast) when it was heat
>>> dried.
>>> There was quite a literature on the papers that did & didn't "plate
>>> out"
>>> but it didn't happen when air dried at room temp.
>>> Though this problem may not be that problem, I realize.
>>> J.
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