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[ale] Why systemd vs sysvinit really doesn't matter to me
- Subject: [ale] Why systemd vs sysvinit really doesn't matter to me
- From: damon at damtek.com (Damon L. Chesser)
- Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2018 15:34:01 -0500
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EXACTLY how I think and how I feel.? I don't get The Great Controversy.
If you use it professionally, there is no choice.? If you use it
privately or you support your customers yourself, you have to do a lot
of work if you don't use systemd.? But, who cares if you want to do all
that work, go for it?? But, and, leave me alone to use major vendors and
support commercial institutions in their day to day quest for market share.
I could roll my own for home use, but, I just don't care enough, If you
do, please roll your own and stop telling me how worthless the OS I use
everyday is.? by the very feat that I use it everyday (Red hat, Debian,
Fedora, Ubuntu and Arch) says it is NOT worthless and A Living Hell.? I
just learn what I need to learn, apply that knowledge, and move on with
what REALLY matters (making money to feed my family, spending time with
the same, and sometimes killing on screen video bad guys (in Linux, no
The Market has spoken.? Perhaps it was a rigged game with a rigged
vote?? Eh.? roll you own.? If this sounds harsh, it is not meant to be.?
Just factual on what My View is.? I just don't get it.? The emotional
turmoil.? Really?? People are dying the world over for a variety of
reasons.? No matter what side of an issue you take, there is mass
injustice and people are up in arms YEARS after an init system is
replaced?? OK.? Put it into perspective.
On 02/17/2018 01:42 PM, James Taylor via Ale wrote:
> I'm a huge fan of linux. Like many, if not all of the people on this list, I depend on it to put food on the table.
> My first *nix system was an SCO 286 box that I ran serial terminals and UUCP access for mail and newgroups.
> I've supported, to some extent, various flavors of unix from IBM, Sun, HP and even Wang Labs.
> I've used linux as my exclusive desktop since 2001.
> In all that time, the only constant has been change.
> I've been running systems with sysvinit from that original SCO system until very recently, so I have become very used to it.
> That said, I'm not going to build my own distribution and support it.
> I depend on major distros, commercial and free, to support my customers, and they don't want to have to think about anything except how their systems generate revenue or otherwise support their organizations' goals.
> I use my computers to provide that support, in addition to my own meager development efforts to support the integrations I do to meet their needs.
> systemd was a major pita, partly because all of the vendors that I use to support my customers went for it wholesale. So I have the choice of creating a ridiculous amount of ongoing effort to do something different, or learn how to deal with systemd.
> Ultimately, it works, and doesn't interfere with anything I need to do.
> The learning curve is not different than any other one related to having to move off of a deprecated utility.
> There are things I like and don't like about it, but it doesn't really change the character of linux enough to make me look elsewhere, so I do what I've always done, adapt and move on.
> James Taylor
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