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[ale] BP knew of problems 11 months before the rig blew -further OT



I hope a rare double or triple failure of redundant systems turns out
to be the cause, but I have not read anything about the backup BOP
seal, etc.  (Surely there was one!)

ie. In aircraft design, their would have been 3 seals.  Each separate
and each engaged under different rules.  And if there really was an
accident that caused the BOP seal to rupture during a routine test,
then only one of the seals would have been under test and the other
two would have been available until the first one was fixed.

That is every day engineering in the avionics field, and yet I haven't
seen any mention of something like that for the BOP seal.  If triple
redundancy is not already standard practice in drilling rigs for all
significant components, it is definitely past time for that to change.

Greg

On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 9:27 AM, Lightner, Jeff <jlightner at water.com> wrote:
> There are nuts of all ideologies. ?They might decide "one little blast"
> now would save potential failures of multiple rigs in years to come.
> They might also not have realized how bad this would be given how far it
> was from the coast.
>
> That kind of thinking is exemplified in the thinking that "murdering" an
> abortion doctor prevents "murders". ?Or the PETA crowd that in the name
> of protecting "animals" feel it is OK to attack their fellow homo
> sapiens stupidly - they throw paint on someone wearing fur which is
> already dead thereby creating a market for killing new fur bearing
> animals for the replacement coat.
>
> I don't *really* believe it was this - just saying it was a random
> thought that occurred to me when the explosion first happened.
> Coincidences do sometimes happen but they do arouse my suspicions when
> they seem to serve an end.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] On Behalf Of
> Geoffrey
> Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 9:01 AM
> To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts - Yes! We run Linux!
> Subject: Re: [ale] BP knew of problems 11 months before the rig blew
> -further OT
>
> wolf at wolfhalton.info wrote:
>> @Jeff - Can we let go of the "xx-terrorist" terminology? ?Unless, of
>> course you can find a definition that is held by more than three
> people
>> at a time, it is a religious-war term for persons we don't agree with,
>
>> and adds nothing to the conversation. ?It is the linguistic framing
> that
>> makes the neo-con forever-war concept seem sane to some people.
>
>
> On the other hand, I don't think a person who is ecologically minded
> would create such a disaster for the sake of proving a point.
>
>>
>> Extreme in my moderation,
>> Wolf
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> *From*: Lightner, Jeff <jlightner at water.com
>> <mailto:%22Lightner,%20Jeff%22%20%3cjlightner at water.com%3e>>
>> *Reply-to*: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts - Yes! We run Linux!
> <ale at ale.org>
>> *To*: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts - Yes! We run Linux! <ale at ale.org
>>
> <mailto:Atlanta%20Linux%20Enthusiasts%20-%20Yes!%20We%20run%20Linux!%20%
> 3cale at ale.org%3e>>,
>> damon at damtek.com <mailto:damon at damtek.com>
>> *Subject*: Re: [ale] BP knew of problems 11 months before the rig blew
>
>> -further OT
>> *Date*: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 15:05:06 -0400
>>
>> The cynic in me at the time of the explosion made me wonder if some
>> eco-terrorist hadn't somehow caused it in reaction to the then recent
>> announcement of expanded offshore drilling by President Obama.
>>
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>
>>
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