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For example, the 1-D elementary cellular automaton known as Rule 30
produces a pattern whose characteristic is statistically
indistinguishable from randomness (see
<a  rel="nofollow" href="http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Rule30.html";>http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Rule30.html</a>).  This finding, to me, is
astonishing and tosses a giant spanner into the I.D. notion that complex
structures cannot arise from simple, granular processes that operate
according to simple, finite rules.  

Jeff



On Wed, 2005-08-17 at 12:53 +0000, aaron wrote:
&gt; On Tuesday 16 August 2005 19:24, Jim Popovitch wrote:
&gt; &gt; Who the heck started this thread?  :-)
&gt; &gt; 
&gt; &gt; I'm surprised this hasn't morphed into Intelligent Design vs Evolution
&gt; &gt; yet?  :-)
&gt; 
&gt; Perhaps that's because there is not any real conflict between fanciful 
&gt; defenses of mystic mythology and the factual science which they inevitably 
&gt; affirm. :-)
&gt; 
&gt; By definition, the &quot;intelligent design&quot; philosophy argues that the 
&gt; complexities of  the universe and our human ingenuity are the self 
&gt; referential proof of an intelligent force underlying our existence.  As this 
&gt; assertion relies entirely on scientific inquiry to provide evidence for the 
&gt; complexity of the universe, it is nothing more than another argument for 
&gt; evolution. In the end, the I.D. philosophy cannot deny the ultimate 
&gt; intelligence of a life system design which has autonomously produced 
&gt; reasoning beings capable of  inventing and employing the scientific processes 
&gt; which, in kind, reveal the genius of design in the life mechanisms that 
&gt; underly their own existence and intelligence.
&gt; 
&gt; Stating it another way, if there were a Great Omnipotent Deity behind the 
&gt; existence of the universe, then the best argument for this ultimate 
&gt; intelligence would be a universe comprised entirely of the cyclic, self 
&gt; sustaining and evolutionary mechanisms that human science uncovers and 
&gt; explores. The perfect intelligent universe will allow that its all powerful 
&gt; creator need never lift a finger beyond the Big Bang; just light the fuse, 
&gt; pop a cold one, sit back and enjoy the fireworks!   There's nothing more 
&gt; elegantly intelligent than the idea of spark once, run forever!   If there is 
&gt; an omnipotent intelligence responsible for amazing clockworks of the 
&gt; universe, then human ingenuity is the end product by which the intelligence 
&gt; of their autonomous, perpetual and evolutionary designs can be acknowledged, 
&gt; and our intelligent processes of factual scientific discovery are the 
&gt; ultimate homage to their genius.
&gt; 
&gt; :-)
&gt; 
&gt; peace
&gt; (because the only sane nation is a nation at peace)
&gt; aaron
&gt; 
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