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RE: DATACENTER: Making LOTS of custom patch cables.




Ok, makes sense. I install everything labeled to/from both ends.
In a CO, everything is usually static for the most part, so
it's definately easier to run custom and bundle
and not have to worry about pulls etc.



Regards,

--
Martin Hannigan                         [email protected]
Asst. Vice President // Engineering     V: 617.204.0200
New England Voice & Data             

On Mon, 17 May 1999, David Greer wrote:

> Marty,
> 
> Well we for one are pretty strict about pulling unused cables from service.
> Also try tracing a wire that has no slack through a bundle of 50 to 100.
> Also the real tight ones are much more likely to have the ends pulled off or
> at least away from the conecntrator.  Plus as someone else pointed out you
> never end up having the proper length on hand.  And my network personnel are
> way to busy to be fussing with a handmade cable every time we have a new
> user comes up.
> 
> Cabling though, like protocols boils down to a religious war.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Martin Hannigan [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Monday, May 17, 1999 3:54 PM
> > To: David Greer
> > Cc: Jeffrey C. Ollie; [email protected]
> > Subject: RE: DATACENTER: Making LOTS of custom patch cables.
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Jeff,
> >
> > What kind of troubles? I have always felt it is so easy to build a
> > cable and it looks neat this is the best way to go. My experience has
> > found that the volume of changes after the initial install is done
> > are minimum. Adds should be easy. Deletes? Does anyone really take
> > cables out anymore? :-)
> >
> > Disclaimer; I'm thinking telco centric data cabling, so my experience
> > may not be reflective of a raw data center.
> >
> > PS: I don't allow tie wraps either. #14 Wax lacing baby! Boo yeah!
> >
> > :-)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > --
> > Martin Hannigan                         [email protected]
> > Asst. Vice President // Engineering     V: 617.204.0200
> > New England Voice & Data
> >
> > On Mon, 17 May 1999, David Greer wrote:
> >
> > > Jeff,
> > >
> > > I am going to have to disagree with Marty and you on this one.
> > I have found
> > > that using custom lengths on patch panels while looking nice,
> > can lead to
> > > management headaches especially when terminating very many.  If
> > you must use
> > > really short cables do yourself a favor and call a vendor and
> > arrange a bulk
> > > order of a couple lengths that should fix the affordability factor.  As
> > > always order at least 50% more than you envision using as you
> > will be wrong.
> > >
> > > I have found that using 2, 4, and 6 foot cable is about the
> > usual for most
> > > rack setups.  Personally though we just use 8 footers.  There
> > is plenty of
> > > extra cable laying around
> > > but its ugliness is made up by its ease of use and a locked door.
> > >
> > > One thing that can help.  If you are running multiple data
> > outlets to each
> > > are don't segragate all the D1's in one place, and all the D2's
> > in another.
> > > Run the matching D1 & D2 jacks side by side your cable plant
> > will look much
> > > nicer.
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: [email protected]
> > > > [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of
> > Jeffrey C. Ollie
> > > > Sent: Monday, May 17, 1999 3:06 PM
> > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > Subject: DATACENTER: Making LOTS of custom patch cables.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > This summer and fall, we are going to be upgrading our entire
> > network to
> > > > 100MB to the desktop. As a part of this upgrade we are going to be
> > > > redoing existing patch panels and installing entirely new
> > ones. To keep
> > > > things looking nice, we want to cut each patch cable to the
> > exact length
> > > > required. We find that our cabinets look a LOT nicer if there are no
> > > > loops of slack cable laying around.
> > > >
> > > > There are a couple of us that are relatively proficient in
> > making patch
> > > > cables with the standard pliers-type crimpers. However, as fast as we
> > > > are it's still going to be a very tedious job. So to speed
> > things up we
> > > > are hoping to find some sort of machine that can make up patch cables
> > > > faster than we can by hand.  We're willing to spend up to US$10,000 or
> > > > so on a solution.
> > > >
> > > > Can anyone recommend products that will solve our problem?
> > > >
> > > > Jeff
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> 
>