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Need /24 (arin) asap

*nods* Having v6 does solve a lot, but the ones that are difficult to work with in v4 are still using v4, so you still have problems. 

I think those experiences are ones felt only by small to medium service providers. Large carriers, academia, hosting\datacenter, etc. don't really have those problems. They do have different problems, but they're fairly well known problems with processes laid out on how to deal with it. 

See my thread from a few weeks ago calling on people doing IP reputation or any sort of geolocation, filtering, blocking, etc. being more transparent. There are ISPs that have tried everything short of driving to the content provider's location and demanding resolution. 

Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 


----- Original Message -----

From: "Ca By" <cb.list6 at gmail.com> 
To: "Michael Crapse" <michael at wi-fiber.io> 
Cc: nanog at nanog.org 
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 11:50:55 AM 
Subject: Re: Need /24 (arin) asap 

On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 9:27 AM, Michael Crapse <michael at wi-fiber.io> wrote: 

> For an eyeball network, you cannot count on an IPv6 only network. Because 
> all of your "customers" will complain because they can't get to hulu, or 
> any other ipv4 only eyeball service. You still need the ipv4s to operate a 
> proper network, and good luck figuring out which services are blacklisting 
> your new /24 because the ipv4 space used to be a VPN provider, and the "in" 
> thing to do for these services is to block VPNs. 

There are many IPv6-only eyeball networks. Definitely many examples in 
wireless (T-Mobile, Sprint, BT ) and wireline (DT with DS-Lite in Germany, 
Orange Poland ...) and even more where IPv4 NAT44 + IPv6 is used. Just 
saying, having ipv6 hedges a lot of risk associate with blacklisting and 
translation related overhead and potentially scale and cost of IPv4 

> On 11 June 2018 at 09:21, Ca By <cb.list6 at gmail.com> wrote: 
>> On Sun, Jun 10, 2018 at 8:43 AM Stan Ouchakov <stano at imaginesoftware.com> 
>> wrote: 
>> > Hi, 
>> > 
>> > Can anyone recommend transfer market brokers for ipv4 addresses? Need 
>> > clean /24 asap. ARIN's waiting list is too long... 
>> > 
>> > Thanks! 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > -Stan 
>> > 
>> > Meanwhile, FB reports that 75% of mobiles in the USA reach them via ipv6 
>> https://code.facebook.com/posts/635039943508824/how-ipv6- 
>> deployment-is-growing-in-u-s-and-other-countries/ 
>> And Akaimai reports 80% of mobiles 
>> https://blogs.akamai.com/2018/06/six-years-since-world-ipv6- 
>> launch-entering-the-majority-phases.html 
>> And they both report ipv6 is faster / better.