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automated site to site vpn recommendations

I believe they fixed this -- when I've spoken to tech support recently, I had to give them a tech support key so that they could access the devices I had questions about.

-----Original Message-----
From: "Paul Nash" <paul at nashnetworks.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2016 8:55am
To: "Untitled 3" <nanog at nanog.org>
Subject: Re: automated site to site vpn recommendations

My biggest issue with Meraki is that their tech staff can run tcpdump on the wired or wireless interface of your Meraki box without having to leave their desk. I have no reason to believe that they are malicious, or in the pay of the NSA, but I am too paranoid to allow their equipment anywhere near me.

Yes, they work well and the cloud control panel makes remote support a breeze; you have to decide how you feel about the insecurity.


> On Jun 27, 2016, at 6:28 PM, Dan Stralka <mrsyeltzin at gmail.com> wrote:
> I would second Meraki for the situation you describe. I don't feel that
> they are the most capable platform, they're expensive, and don't always
> present you with all the information you'd need for troubleshooting.
> However, the VPN offers great dynamic tunneling, instant-on performance,
> and are by far the simplest platform to offer a field person. They're also
> tenacious - I've had them connect to the cloud management platform and
> build a VPN under some trying circumstances.
> From a security standpoint, they will offer features that will impress for
> the price (Sourcefire, inability to use if stolen, 802.1x, and remote VPN
> tunnel control), and we've found they punch above their weight and their
> APs perform fantastically.
> We deploy them worldwide many times per year in similar use cases,
> sometimes with 150 users on the LAN. If your routing is simple, you can
> define your security policies, and don't need crazy throughput on your VPN,
> Meraki is the way to go. Be careful though: they have to be continually
> licensed to work and can get pretty expensive if you go for the higher end
> gear. Thus far, we've been able to stick to the cheaper stuff and
> accomplish our goals.
> Dan
> (end)
> On Jun 27, 2016 6:01 PM, "Karl Auer" <kauer at biplane.com.au> wrote:
>> On Mon, 2016-06-27 at 13:08 -0700, c b wrote:
>>> In some cases...
>> The words "in some cases" are a problem with any supposedly plug and
>> play solution.
>>> We really could use a simple solution that you
>>> just flip on, it calls home, and works...
>> ...but still requiring someone to enter credentials of some sort,
>> right? Otherwise you have a device wandering about that provides look
>> -mum-no-hands access to your corporate network.
>> MikroTik stuff is cheap as chips, small, comes with wifi, ethernet, USB
>> for a wireless dongle or storage, and has a highly-scriptable operating
>> system. Not a bad platform.
>> Regards, K.
>> --
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> Karl Auer (kauer at biplane.com.au)
>> http://www.biplane.com.au/kauer
>> http://twitter.com/kauer389
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