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ESR muses on, among other things, the early IETF

On Sat, Oct 06, 2012 at 06:12:08PM -0400, Frank Kastenholz wrote:
> On Oct 6, 2012, at 6:39 AM, bmanning at vacation.karoshi.com wrote:
> > On Sat, Oct 06, 2012 at 10:14:41AM +0100, Nick Hilliard wrote:
> >> On 06/10/2012 03:20, Jay Ashworth wrote:
> >>> Those who know Fred and knew Jon personally might want to throw an oar in the
> >>> water on this blog posting from last month..
> ...
> >    I -think- Jon and Fred were not contemporaries.  Fred is
> >    closer to my age than Jon.
> While I don't know how old either is/would be, Fred was active in the IETF before
> I joined the IESG, I appointed him chair of the pppwg in 95 or 96 or so
> (I think?) and he became IETF chair in 96 or so --- the last year I was on the IESG.
> And was at the nerds on the beach IETF in Hawaii in89 or 90 iirc
> --Jon. Passed away in 98. 
> They certainly overlapped in their i* lives
> Frank Kastenholz 

	going back another decade,  Fred and I both worked on/with bridging technologies,
	before routing was popular.  Jon had us beat by at least a decade - early 1970s.
	We cme to the party in the late 70's early 80s.