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On Feb 2, 2011, at 3:16 AM, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote:

> On 2 feb 2011, at 4:51, Dave Israel wrote:
>> They were features dreamed up by academics, theoreticians, and purists, and opposed by operators.
> Contrary to popular belief, the IETF listens to operators and wants them to participate. Few do. For instance, I don't seem to remember your name from any IETF mailinglists. (I could be mistaken, though.)