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[ih] Internet History - Commercialization (was Re: When did "32" bits for IP register as "not enough"?)

I was on the FTP board when MS released TCP/IP for DOS. It killed the
market for FTP.

On Mon, Feb 18, 2019, 14:16 Clem Cole <clemc at ccc.com wrote:

> On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 12:27 PM Dave Crocker <dhc at dcrocker.net> wrote:
>> On 2/18/2019 7:35 AM, Tony Finch wrote:
>> > I was wondering what effect KA9Q had on low-end adoption. I turned up
>> > later, but I remember stories from early (1992 ish) dial-up commercial
>> > Internet users who relied on KA9Q.
>> I believe KA9Q created a lingua franca for PC use of the Internet,
>> within the technical community.  That counted as a major improvement, IMO.
> IMO: Phil (who was a friend and former lab partner at CMU) did an
> outstanding great job; although I would say FTP SW folks in Andover may
> have been more important from a commercial standpoint.   Best I can tell,
> Phil's implementation was popular in the ham community where he originally
> released it to use over radio TTY HW.
> The MIT's guys (I believe for Project Athena) and then created FTP
> actually made a product that was tuned to PC Ethernet HW (and DOS).  I had
> access to both implementations at the time. For instance, we used the FTP
> stuff for a project at Mass General Hospital, even though it cost a few
> hundred dollars and Phil's was 'open source'.   But FTP SW's solution was
> more polished and integrated better into their environment.   Phil's stuff
> was a 'hackers tool kit' and although I personally had it running at home,
> I can say I was reluctant to use it someplace where I was not there to
> 'maintain it.'
> One of the differences is that FTP guys did the important thing of
> creating a socket implementation for windows and thus were able to port a
> lot of the UNIX code using the 386 'DOS extender' from Pharlap and early
> 386/C compiler.   For a short time, they seemed to be winning the IP for PC
> battle until MSFT got the IP religion and included an IP/TCP implementation
> in Win95.
> Clem
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