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cpunks archives gone as at September?



On Thu, Sep 06, 2018 at 12:28:23PM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 05, 2018 at 07:15:07PM -0700, Mirimir wrote:
> > On 09/05/2018 06:46 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
> > > On Wed, Sep 05, 2018 at 06:24:29PM -0700, Mirimir wrote:
> > >> On 09/05/2018 05:19 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
> > >>> Are the cpunks archives (or the list I guess) gone for good?
> > >>
> > >> https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/
> > >>
> > >> | September 2018 Archives by date
> > >> |
> > >> |     Messages sorted by: [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ]
> > >> |     More info on this list...
> > >> |
> > >> | Starting: Wed Sep 5 17:19:36 PDT 2018
> > >> | Ending: Wed Sep 5 18:03:28 PDT 2018
> > >> | Messages: 2
> > >> |
> > >> |     cpunks archives gone as at September?   Zenaan Harkness
> > >> |     cpunks archives gone as at September?   jim bell
> > >> |
> > >> | Last message date: Wed Sep 5 18:03:28 PDT 2018
> > >> | Archived on: Wed Sep 5 18:03:35 PDT 2018
> > >> |
> > >> |     Messages sorted by: [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ]
> > >> |     More info on this list...
> > >>
> > >> There's something ironic about that ;)
> > > 
> > > Looks like those folk who "group" reply, but are not subscribed, are
> > > not getting bounces to inform them they need to be subscribed? (or
> > > may be they are - idk)
> > > 
> > > I've had at least two such replies in September and there were no
> > > archives until today, so their emails must get to me, but be dropped
> > > due to not being subscribed, and therefore not archived.
> > > 
> > > Makes sense.
> > 
> > You've confused me.
> > 
> > Are you saying that https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/ was
> > gone for a while recently?
> > 
> > Or are you saying that you've received messages from the list that don't
> > show up in the archives?
> 
> I received messages which I thought were from the list and did not
> show up in the archives.
> 
> There were no -actual- messages for September until today, and so the
> archive for Sept did not exist.

This seems correct.

> My sieve filter checks for To and Cc, and for the list-id, and files
> all such emails into my cp folder, and there were at least 2 such
> emails in September prior to today, which are not in the cpunks
> archives.

Evidently these messages went to you and was handled correctly, but were never posted to the cypherpunks at lists.cpunks.org list.

If anyone thinks messages *were* posted but *were not* archived at the link above, please let me know and I can dig into some log files.

> It seems that some folks group-reply, and ignore any bounce or not
> subscribed messages (since I receive such emails semi regularly, I
> assumed that such persons would subscribe or stop group-replying and
> just privately reply...)

Yes.  Mailman rejects a few things silently, but mostly people should get a bounce if a message is not accepted for the list.  If anyone spots anomalies, let me know and I can take a closer look at the list config.

I believe it's safe to "Cc: cypherpunks at lists.cpunks.org" but not "Bcc: cypherpunks at lists.cpunks.org"

Also Mailman has a threshold for how many addresses may be included in To: and Cc: before flagging for the moderator (me).  This hasn't happened recently.

I noticed this whole series of messages seems to be archived correctly, which indicates that at least some things are currently working correctly.

  - Greg (cpunks list maintainer)