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wording about door number two and having something behind it two dif things

On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 1:02 AM, Troy Benjegerdes <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 09:42:29AM -0500, Steve Kinney wrote:
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> > On 02/20/2016 09:09 AM, Cari Machet wrote:
> >
> > > you dont get it its much worse - as industry is harnessed the
> > > whims of the state are addressed but other pressing life
> > > matters are ignored
> > >
> > > the state is a middle man and controls what life gets to
> > > succeed at a scientist that worked on the genome will no longer
> > > work with state money and condemns the state - that should tell
> > > you what is happening more than anything
> > >
> > > http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/can-algae-feed-the-world
> > - -and-fuel-the-planet/
> >
> > I
> > >
> > think I 'get it.'  I stopped working for DoD contractors about
> > 15 years ago, when the last of the jobs in my field that did not
> > contribute directly to mass murder went away.  Poverty sucks, but
> > not as much as the alternative.
> >
> > > and tesla ... just look at tesla
> >
> > He's a favorite of mine, since way before 'Conspiracy Theory'
> > propaganda shops made him a major, recurrent theme in their
> > bullshit mythology.  The suppression of Broadcast Power is a cool
> > story, but:  How come the same people who believe that cell phones
> > and WiFi routers cause cancer, demand the right to walk around
> > 24/7 inside an RF field dense enough to run heavy machinery?  And
> > where do they think the /huge/ amount of energy to run such an
> > inherently inefficient, waste-friendly distribution system will
> > come from?  Alas, the True Believers' passion is real and
> > justified, but they have grossly misplaced their trust...
> >
> > When I say that the failure of State and Corporate institutions as
> > we know them is inherent in the design of State and Corporate
> > institutions, it all sounds neat and pretty:  Just a worked-out
> > maths problem.  But I am well aware that this means a human
> > population crash and all the ugliness that goes with it is on the
> > way.  As far as I can tell no power in Heaven or Earth can prevent
> > it.  Mitigating the damage to present and future generations
> > appears to be the only game left in town.
> >
> > :o/
>
> Population crash is only true for the populations that cannot
> conceive of shared abundance. We've gone from 95% of the population
> working on farms to less than 1%, and with the right tools, 5% of
> the population with a little AI and distributed production tools
> is more than sufficent to feed, fuel, and house the rest.
>
> That, however, doesn't help those who won't eat because they
> believe, ever so fervently, in the doom of humanity. Which is
> fine, we just have to wait them out and contain the damage,
> possibly by sticking them in a simulation of their chosen rapture.
> Who knows, maybe that will be the source of organ donors in the
> next millenium.
>
> If you insist on being slaughtered, who am I to stop you from
> walking into the blender. But I will politely point out the
> clearly labeled door number two if you can stop to see it.
>
>
> > > On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 2:52 PM, Steve Kinney
> > > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> > >
> > > On 02/20/2016 08:43 AM, Cari Machet wrote:
> > >> its not just about the money
> > >
> > >> look into hybrid rule initiated by the nixon executive
> > >> branch
> > >
> > >> industry is harnessed like a father fucking mule for the
> > >> state
> > >>>>>>> for the protection of the state
> > >
> > > I have come to view the State as a machine that converts money
> > > into power, and power back into money, in an accelerating
> > > feedback cycle.  This would make 'national security' a
> > > mechanism for defending that machine's operation, and of
> > > course, accelerating the process of delivering money/power into
> > > the hands of those who already have the most of both.
> > >
> > >> ask yourself why the state would need to amp its protections
> > >> : nation state structures are not working its a dying form
> > >
> > > Verily.  The feedback cycle described above, and the
> > > industrial markets that parasitically co-exist with it, must
> > > both grow exponentially to survive.  Since this exponential
> > > growth is happening inside a closed container, failure is
> > > inherent in their structural foundations.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> Troy Benjegerdes                 'da hozer'
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>
>


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