Re: weird. . .

From: Ryuji Suzuki ^lt;>
Date: 04/07/04-10:48:47 PM Z
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From: "Gordon J. Holtslander" <>
Subject: Re: weird. . .
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 10:31:27 -0600

Sorry I jumped on thinking that you must be reluctant to continue this
rather non-photographic thread.

> Currenty trying to do a traceroute to John Campbell's ISP stops responding
> after 17 hops. This isn't typical, but I'm not a traceroute expert.

Some firewalls are set to block ICMP traffic.

> By comparison I arbitrarily did a traceroute to Ryuji's ISP - it takes 14
> hops.

Which one? I have different ISP's for webhosting and email. When I
decided it was no longer cost/time effective to run my own server, I
switched to a comprehensive service provider, but I soon found email
services provided by webhosting companies were not reliable and I had
very frustrating time until I decided to use dedicated email company
for email.

> The other thing that really complicates receiving email messages
> from this list, are the number of blacklisting spam blocking
> services. There are many that are quite poorly implemented. Mail
> from this list is regularly blocked by at least one of these
> blacklisting services. There is nothing I can do to stop this.

I also have had bad experience with those. In particular, AOL was the
worst. They have their own blacklist, and they silently blocked a lot
of emails. They communicated very poorly as to what's needed to get

One problem with mailing lists and some of those blacklist-linked
email providers is that, some users who can't figure out how to
unsubscribe from the list falsely report the list as a spam and ask to
block the emails. You laugh, but I've seen it happening.

Ryuji Suzuki
"All the truth in the world adds up to one big lie." (Bob Dylan 2000)
Received on Wed Apr 7 22:49:04 2004

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