Re: hot and cold press papers

From: Kate Mahoney ^lt;[email protected]>
Date: 03/31/04-07:14:51 PM Z
Message-id: <003201c41786$bca73df0$a726f6d2@yourif5zypd2xn>

This amazes me - I use Arches Aquarelle as the paper of choice, have a very
sebsitive nose and have never ever noticed a bad smell.....?????What
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From: "William Laven" <>
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Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 4:29 AM
Subject: Re: hot and cold press papers

> I once used Aquarelle for Pt/Pd and got a great image, but couldn't
> stand the smell either. I thought I had a rotten (sic) batch and
> didn't try it again because I preferred the Arches Platine.
> What's the smell from?
> >Hi all,
> > I just wanted to share my experiences with different papers, for
> >it is worth.
> > I had previously posted on the sinking of aquarelle to the bottom
> >the tub when presoaking and shrinking my paper. It also held in moisture
> >longest, so it took FOREVER to dry, unlike Uno and Artistico and Magnano.
> >It also had clear spots of uneven sizing, and some I soaked had dark
> >of what looked like stain. I thought for sure the aquarelle was going to
> >a "never order again" paper.
> > However, in side by side comparisons, having never worked before on
> >cold pressed papers and gum printing (before I only used Rives BFK which
> >some slight surface texture but is not cold pressed) I am amazed at how
> >detail you can get. For some reason, I thought the bumps in cold pressed
> >papers would create a softer image, and not so. In fact, there is more
> >depth to the image, but not less detail. I was using cold and hot in Uno,
> >Artistico, Aquarelle. Magano is bumpy, too.
> > The aquarelle no longer sank to the bottom once sized with a
> >gelatin layer.
> > The one thing I found was that I had a much easier time getting an
> >coating with no streaks with the cold pressed papers. This reminds me of
> >Charles Ryberg and one other person on the list who was having difficulty
> >streaking. Try cold pressed paper. Once I was past the first layer, the
> >hot pressed, smooth papers would streak more. The first layer never did,
> >tho, so somehow the buildup of hardened gum contributed to the streaking.
> > Speaking of which, I was using the roller method on some, but could
> >only get an even layer on the first layer but not thereafter. I think I
> >need to make my gum solution thinner to use that method. Otherwise, I
> >use a 3" hake brush.
> > I'm trying to decide on a paper to stick with, and contrary to what
> >was expecting, cold press may be it. Probably not aquarelle, as it does,
> >Katharine says, smell bad. I liken it to wet dog. Plus the other
> >with it and uneven sizing etc. But it sure looks nice in a print...
> >Chris
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