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[ale] for all you systemd haters...

On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 02:20:38PM -0500, leam hall via Ale wrote:
> That makes me wonder; what does systemd do that non-systemd mechanisms
> cannot? Granted, it may make some things easier or more to someone's
> liking, but what does it do well that cannot be replicated otherwise?

Given that systemd uses public Linux (and/or glibc) APIs, there's 
nothing it does that another tool (or set of tools) couldn't also 

An example of something that systemd does well is logind.  Sure, you can 
recreate the external service API, but replicating the functionality 
"well" might be impossible without also replicating much of the systemd 
functionality that logind relies upon.  Consequently, anything that 
seeks to replicate logind's underlying functionality (ie session 
management using Linux's cgroup features) is likely to end up looking 
subtantially similar to systemd's implementation.

Are there other approaches to take?  Sure, but someone who cares has to 
actually step up, make it work, and most importantly, keep supporting 
it.  (That's why everyone was so happy to drop ConsoleKit like a hot 

 - Solomon
Solomon Peachy			       pizza at shaftnet dot org
Coconut Creek, FL                          ^^ (email/xmpp) ^^
Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur.
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