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[ale] Moving my phone into the 20th Century



You're correct as far as I am aware.  "Unlocking" is only making a
carrier-locked phone be usable on another carrier.  Has nothing to do
with jailbreaking/rooting or putting other ROMs on it.



On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 3:58 PM, Scott Plante <splante at insightsys.com> wrote:
> These two statements were made when we discussed this back on 2/23:
>
> Yes, AFAIK, jailbreaking phones is still legal, but that doesn't mean
> the manufacturer has to make it easy or even possible.
>
> Jailbreak = getting out of chroot so you can do other things with the phone
> Unlock = Phone will only receive service on the carrier the phone is locked
> to
>
> ? Brian Mathis
>
>
> in reply to by Charles Shapiro:
>
> What?  My understanding was that the DMCA provision affected *only
> unlocking* the phone, and that rooting it or installing a 3rd-party OS was
> still legal ( although it could theoretically expose you to civil suit).
> That said, my desultory research shows it _is_ illegal to jailbreak your
> tablet.
>
> http://gizmodo.com/5955130/jailbreaking-is-now-legal-for-smartphonesbut-not-tablets?tag=dmca
>
> Not that any of this makes sense.
>
> -- CHS
>
>
> No one objected on-list that I can see. Does the group still accept the
> above as true? The installation of a third party ROM/OS should be fine with
> respect to the DCMA because you're just not using their software, rather
> than breaking the licensing protection of their software. Rooting their OS
> seems less clear cut to me, but perhaps it depends what you do once it's
> rooted.
>
> Scott
> ________________________________
> From: "Jim Kinney" <jim.kinney at gmail.com>
>
> To: "Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts" <ale at ale.org>
> Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 1:56:53 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [ale] Moving my phone into the 20th Century
>
> Yes. It was not the courts that wrote the stupid rule. But the courts are
> generally where the designation "stupid rule" get applied :-)
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Chuck Peters <cp at axs.org> wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Jim Kinney <jim.kinney at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> And that 1 fact should be rammed down the courts throat to force a review
>>> of that ruling.
>>
>>
>> The courts didn't do this...  The ineptitude of this falls on the US
>> Congress and the DMCA law they made, and they left it up to the LIBRARIAN OF
>> CONGRESS.
>>
>> In the article I cited,
>> http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2013/01/the-most-ridiculous-law-of-2013-so-far-it-is-now-a-crime-to-unlock-your-smartphone/272552/,
>> under the heading WHO REALLY OWNS YOUR PHONE?
>> The DMCA leaves it up to the Librarian of Congress (LOC) to issue
>> exemptions from the law, exceptions that were recognized to be necessary
>> given the broad language of the statute that swept a number of ordinary acts
>> and technologies as potential DMCA circumvention violations.
>>
>> Every three years groups like the American Foundation for the Blind have
>> to lobby Congress to protect an exception for the blind allowing for books
>> to be read aloud. Can you imagine a more ridiculous regulation than one that
>> requires a lobby group for the blind to come to Capitol Hill every three
>> years to explain that the blind still can't read books on their own and
>> therefore need this exception?
>>
>>
>> Chuck
>>
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