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On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 9:06 PM, Jim Lynch
<ale_nospam at fayettedigital.com> wrote:
> David Tomaschik wrote:
>> I have no experience with SLED, but I do admin
>> RHEL/CentOS/Debian/Ubuntu and I much prefer apt. ?(It's really, from
>> an admin standpoint, apt vs yum.) ?To me, apt is faster, has a smaller
>> footprint, and is easier to configure.
>>
>> I think it's all about opinion. ?Some people say that rpm doesn't do
>> as well at dependency resolution, leading to dependency nightmares,
>> but to be honest, I think that as of recent distributions, that's no
>> longer an issue. ?They've both become more advanced over time, and the
>> packaging tools have improved.
>>
> I have to say that's been my experience. ?I gave up on rpm based systems
> early on because of the dependency hell. ? I've since been reintroduced
> somewhat forceable (read $$$) to the likes of Centos and to a small
> degree SUSE and found yum and yast seems to have solved the problems to
> a great degree. ?So it's not quite as much of an issue. ?I will say that
> Ubuntu does seem to have more packages that I'm interested in available
> in the normal distros. ?Dag has improved rpm distros immensely.
>
> It's still my experience working with .deb is easier than .rpm.
>
> Jim.
>> David
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 7:31 PM, Narahari 'n' Savitha
>> <savithari at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> This leads me to ask general question, why do people say that rpm is bad but
>>> .debs are better ?
>>>
>>> In what way is rpm better/worse than .deb ?
>>> Also why is Arch Linux not that famous ?
>>>
>>> I hope I have not opened pandoras box.
>>>
>>> -Narahari
>>> On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 7:04 PM, James Sumners <james.sumners at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> It's an RPM distro. Which means, despite it being otherwise great,
>>>> it's an abhorrent nightmare to deal with.
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, February 14, 2011, Narahari 'n' Savitha <savithari at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have SLED. ?It is what I have to use. ?The way I understand from the
>>>>> pics I sent, system is looking for an ent. cd instead of going online to
>>>>> look for the packages.
>>>>>
>>>>> I just want to tell SLED, that instead of CD go to the gatech or novell
>>>>> site (since I am using ent and not open suse).
>>>>>
>>>>> One more thing, is SLED close to Redhat in terms of package aka rpm's or
>>>>> close to .deb's.
>>>>>
>>>>> Like if a software can be installed on Redhat (in my case MyEclipse) can
>>>>> it be instaled on SLED ? ?What do I need to do for this to work right ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for your time and attention.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Narahari
>>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> James Sumners
>>>> http://james.roomfullofmirrors.com/
>>>>
>>>> "All governments suffer a recurring problem: Power attracts
>>>> pathological personalities. It is not that power corrupts but that it
>>>> is magnetic to the corruptible. Such people have a tendency to become
>>>> drunk on violence, a condition to which they are quickly addicted."
>>>>
>>>> Missionaria Protectiva, Text QIV (decto)
>>>> CH:D 59
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SUSE come a long way guys. It rock solid and very easy. Zypper is as
equal to Apt-get. Now, the different with SLE and openSUSE, there are
ton of repos, the dependency hell, I haven't had that issue. RPM's are
systems have come a long way. I don't know of anything equal to Space
Walk or Auto-Yast for Debain. Remember, if it's Enterprise the two
that companies use are Red Hat ( CentOS ) and SUSE Linux Enterprise

RPM are very easy too, as easy as .deb and apt-get. You want a power
package manager you need to try Zypper.

Chuck

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