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[ale] Templates (was: [ale] Need a PHP/MySQL intern...)



Ok...educate me here please.

I'm not sure I see any real benefit of using templates aside from making 
your code look a bit prettier for someone who might be php illiterate or 
terrified of non-html source.  Looking at Smarty for an example, it 
would seem that all (and forgive me if I'm wrong...this after a cursory 
look ;-)) it provides is merely another layer of abstraction on top of 
php...function calls that look different from actual function calls but 
are still function calls...if/then/elses and loops likewise.

Where's the benefit?  As far as being able to affect all pages on a site 
with a single line change, can't you do this by including a general file 
that would set a var like $background, or $fontcolor, etc.?  As far as 
separating presentation from business logic, can't this be accomplished 
by function calls or objects (i.e., have a set of function libs or 
classes specifically to handle bus. logic, and have your display code 
make calls to these resources)?

Is Zope in someway different?

Someone enlighten me...

Thanks,

John



Benjamin Scherrey wrote:
> I've looked at Zope but find it a bit too invasive, especially its persistence model. Basically it carries some of 
> the same downside as PHP does for me. I have seen some really good systems done in Zope, however, and 
> I'm sure its a strong product but its not what I'm looking for.
> 
> 	regards & later,
> 
> 		Ben Scherrey
> 
> 3/13/2002 6:44:42 AM, Joseph A Knapka <jknapka at earthlink.net> wrote:
> <snip>
> 
>>You might look at Zope and Zope Page Templates. Zope rocks;
>>it's a free web application server implemented mostly in
>>Python: <http:www.zope.org>. ZPT allows you to achieve nearly
>>100% separation between presentation, content, and logic,
>>and allows application logic to be implemented in Python or
>>(so I believe, though I haven't tried it) Perl.
>>
>>I haven't actually used ZPT in production yet, but I plan to
>>convert an existing client's Zope site to use ZPT in the near
>>future.
>>
> 
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