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[ale] OT - Entry Level Job Opening
- Subject: [ale] OT - Entry Level Job Opening
- From: hbbs at attbi.com (Jeff Hubbs)
- Date: 30 Jul 2002 02:17:51 -0400
Going on the offensive against your company over this to this degree
might not necessarily be called for, but the fact is that this is a
Linux list and people who work with Linux and understand the Open Source
model are also quicker than most to recognize and call out some of the
crap that this industry has to offer, and a lot of said crap comes from
Such people also tend to be particularly critical of deliberate
standards-breaking or -hiding in IT. Your company's Web site is an
illustration of that on its face. My earlier comment suggested that
there may be a collusion between MS and Web shops, and it's a perfectly
reasonable hypothesis; it would be in keeping with MS' history of
predatory behavior. Personally, I believe that it is harmful to the
industry and to Internet users in general to push for anything other
than standards compliance in Web browsing. As an IT Manager, I would
kick the butt of anyone who worked for me who let out with a comment
like "most people run IE anyway; if that works then that's fine." I
would push for coding for STANDARDS-COMPLIANT BROWSERS and I would ALSO
push for making sure that open-source browsers stay compliant as well.
That's to say that if something's broken, find out which piece has
deviated and work to fix the deviant piece, so, if it turns out that you
think you're compliant on the server side but Konqueror does it wrong,
then it's time to work with the Konqueror team to resolve the issue.
I guess what I'm saying is I don't care for whoever did your Web site's
attitude as indicated by that error page. You can expect to catch some
hell on their behalf when posting a message like that to a Linux list.
On Mon, 2002-07-29 at 23:23, Alan Bowman wrote:
> >So much for a Unix shop. Must be one of the dumb Unix shops you hear so
> >much about.
> I don't recall mentioning it was a Unix shop, only that we needed a
> Unix support person. Of the nearly 38,000 Dental practices that the
> company supports, only about 800 use the Unix based software. It's the
> legacy product, having been around since 1982. The vast majority of the
> practices use either a Windows or Mac based software package.
> All together, the company probably sells and supports about 20 different
> software products, of which the Unix based product is only one.
> I believe that your "dumb" remark is not a fair one. You don't know me,
> or the group of people I work with. You have no knowledge of the type of
> work we do, or of our skill levels. The fact that the website is IE
> specific is a valid criticism, but not one I have any control over. To
> say that myself and my coworkers are "dumb" because you can't access the
> website is, well, dumb. Had you contacted me directly, I would have been
> glad to explain any of this to you. I didn't realize that I would have
> to justify the company's website development strategy in a job posting,
> especially one that has nothing to do with said website.
> I find it interesting that the last two times I posted job openings for
> this exact same job to this list, no one made comments about the
> website, or our shop being "dumb". All we got were stacks of resumes.
> Can I take this as a sign that the economy is picking up?
> Unhappy the land that needs heroes.
> -- Bertolt Brecht
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